Modellers drawings of mugs to be identified ...

Could this be the 1487? The lip on the mugs in the auction look straighter. I have asked if they are numbered.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/antiques-collectables/art-deco-retro/kitchenware/auction-850091201.htm

I have that one and I just looked and it's an 1164.

While away over last week, we passed a firewood place in Golden Bay that had a wee sign on the side 'second hand goods'. We passed it twice, but I finally got a peek in there, and there was a large mixed selection of pottery - mostly at antique shop prices and with damage and a thick layer of dust! However I did manage to find this, which I have cleaned the outside of. I'd say it is fairly old, and has quite a bit of crazing, but it fits well into the ship's mug catagory. My measurements don't match either of the ones from the Portage though, at approx 98mm H 135mm W and 113mm Dia. I wasn't sure how you measure the width, I guess from outside handle to opposite base edge.


Although it is not clear in the photo, there is a definite shaping to the base edge, like the modeller's drawings

Showing the bevelled base edge

I cannot really show the base, as it is covered by a thick stodgy black rubbery substance. Will post another photo once I figure out how to clean it off.

Anne,
this one looks like Geoff's one, above, and the 1448s on Portage, but the waist on the one in the drawing has no belt like this.

As for measurements, the Portage plaster one will be oversized because it is a model and there will be lots of shrinkage before the final product.
http://www.nzmuseums.co.nz/account/3384/object/489310/Plaster_model_-_mug

You can see that in the smaller measurements of the finished one, the height of which is near enough the same as yours.
http://www.nzmuseums.co.nz/account/3384/object/489378/Mug_-_sailing_vessels

Taking Portage as a guide I'd call yours a 1448.

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16/2/16
The response from mumof1 below precedes this edit.

I have just bought a match for the Portage 1448. Finally.
Same pattern (schooner etc). Minor issues with measurements but near enough.
Wrt Portage mug description, I'd say the glaze is white rather than clear.


It is a shape match with Anne's one and has the same black rubber on the base.
With the exception of the base rubber, which has perished, mine appears to be in perfect condition.

I have seen a similar shape for sale on tm (2x) but made in California: marked as such.

Whilst Anne's and mine match Portage's 1448 and their plaster model none match the drawing above.


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13/12/16

For more on 1448 see
https://www.newzealandpottery.net/t7237-no-spill-no-slide-californian-origins-of-the-1448-mug?highlight=1448

1387. We have identified two torso shapes, one plain-sided and one with rings. See
https://www.newzealandpottery.net/t5728-titianware-nz-mug-what-shape-is-it-please-1387

"q." "Franklin Mint" may be 1483. Other sizes might then be 1584 and 1485. See
https://www.newzealandpottery.net/t8038-new-shape-castware-tankard-1483#32066

1487. Further three sizes might be 1488 to 1490. See
https://www.newzealandpottery.net/t7352-harro-s-and-1487-for-the-gallery#29184
 "Franklin Mint"
.

Yes I see Jeremy, I measured the diameter at the base not the top, and the rest is hard to get an exact measurement so I winged it, hence the approx.

A great find Anne and I agree that it will be Crown Lynn as it is a New Zealand company advert.

Thanks Ev, and being a ships mug, we finally figured out what the bottom comment meant - We never slide perhaps I will leave that gooey stuff on the base, as that would ensure the Captain's tea wasn't spilt in rolling seas!