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So is this a Crown Lynn deer?
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Kat & Co.
Ev
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Re: So is this a Crown Lynn deer?
Yay! I had another look at the bottom of my goose but it has no marks at all..
Kat & Co.- Number of posts : 2321
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Fawn is Orzel
I got down Rhi Rhi (Thai Green Lady) & had a good look in good light and fawn has the same emerald green almost black glaze. Which sofar I thought was unique to her...(Rhi Rhi has no frothy details)
Fawn definately Orzel me thinks, thanks haselnuss for your help, I think hes looking at home already up there on my top shelf, I'm stoked..
Fawn definately Orzel me thinks, thanks haselnuss for your help, I think hes looking at home already up there on my top shelf, I'm stoked..
Kat & Co.- Number of posts : 2321
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Re: So is this a Crown Lynn deer?
Kat. is your goose on site?
Is it same as haselnuss' one?
The goose is illustrated in Gail Henry (pl 12):
"Unmarked, maker's provenance. H: 11.5cm (tallest). Private collection."
The combination of "maker's provenance" and "Private collection" suggests this example belongs to the Browns. Don't expect a mark.
That haselnuss' one has the "CB" could indicate that it is the odd one out, but with the quality of the glaze there can be no doubt it is an original piece.
Perhaps when Ev or Val next visit the Browns it would be helpful to find out whether a "CB" mark indicates Cam sr, Cam jr, Chris, or none of them.
The Faun and Lady look good together.
Is it same as haselnuss' one?
The goose is illustrated in Gail Henry (pl 12):
"Unmarked, maker's provenance. H: 11.5cm (tallest). Private collection."
The combination of "maker's provenance" and "Private collection" suggests this example belongs to the Browns. Don't expect a mark.
That haselnuss' one has the "CB" could indicate that it is the odd one out, but with the quality of the glaze there can be no doubt it is an original piece.
Perhaps when Ev or Val next visit the Browns it would be helpful to find out whether a "CB" mark indicates Cam sr, Cam jr, Chris, or none of them.
The Faun and Lady look good together.
Jeremy Ashford- Number of posts : 3193
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Re: So is this a Crown Lynn deer?
Yes its here http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/t4063-titian-goose?highlight=goose
Kat & Co.- Number of posts : 2321
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Dolphin Lamp for sale
Damaged but cheap. Repairable. Not my cuppa.
The dolphins, the base and the glaze look like Hemara's Terra Dolphin.
Clearly not Blue Mountain as base chip shows white body not red.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Antiques-collectables/auction-771661772.htm
The dolphins, the base and the glaze look like Hemara's Terra Dolphin.
Clearly not Blue Mountain as base chip shows white body not red.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Antiques-collectables/auction-771661772.htm
Jeremy Ashford- Number of posts : 3193
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Re: So is this a Crown Lynn deer?
Kat, I love the lady bust and the fawn goes nicely with it! Gail Henry talks in her book about the Black Forest dark green/black glaze on page 172. It was used during the Orzel/Aquila time.
Jeremy, I saw that auction too and another one a few months ago with just the dolphins in green/black without the lamp but I am worried that they are hobby ceramics or from the USA.
Because postage cost would be very high and they look like they break easy during transport I didn't purchase them.
I got caught out recently when I purchased a horse online which looked like a Aquila one and turned out to be hobby ceramics. I still like it but I paid far too much for it.
Did Hemara make the three jumping dolphin statue?
I have got a model of two green/black kittens sitting together with the Terra Ceramics sticker attached. I'll get my husband to take a picture next week. I know Terra C. also made the same size two puppies model.
Jeremy, I saw that auction too and another one a few months ago with just the dolphins in green/black without the lamp but I am worried that they are hobby ceramics or from the USA.
Because postage cost would be very high and they look like they break easy during transport I didn't purchase them.
I got caught out recently when I purchased a horse online which looked like a Aquila one and turned out to be hobby ceramics. I still like it but I paid far too much for it.
Did Hemara make the three jumping dolphin statue?
I have got a model of two green/black kittens sitting together with the Terra Ceramics sticker attached. I'll get my husband to take a picture next week. I know Terra C. also made the same size two puppies model.
haselnuss- Number of posts : 970
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Re: So is this a Crown Lynn deer?
I guess we should ask Val or Ev to ask Hemara if they are his dolphins.
It can be embarrassing buying Hobby but if you buy for the looks of the object father than resale value it shouldn't be.
I have some very nice Hobby Ceramics pieces, well interesting at least, including Clay Craft teapot and canisters, my wise oriental man, and my garish half size flamingos.
There is a flamingo on tm atm, "handpainted" but 4sale as a "flamago" I think.
It can be embarrassing buying Hobby but if you buy for the looks of the object father than resale value it shouldn't be.
I have some very nice Hobby Ceramics pieces, well interesting at least, including Clay Craft teapot and canisters, my wise oriental man, and my garish half size flamingos.
There is a flamingo on tm atm, "handpainted" but 4sale as a "flamago" I think.
Jeremy Ashford- Number of posts : 3193
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Re: So is this a Crown Lynn deer?
Yes, It is true that some Hobby ceramics pieces have been decorated really well.
The two Terra Ceramics kittens.
The two Terra Ceramics kittens.
haselnuss- Number of posts : 970
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Dogs
14cmh spaniel pups modelled alot like the kittens above, the colour is bluer than the fawn & Cera-rose seal pup I have.. actually its more like Ev's deer in colour, with a slighly irridescent sheen..? the base is scratched unlike anything else too..
Kat & Co.- Number of posts : 2321
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Re: So is this a Crown Lynn deer?
Hi Kat, I am pretty sure that I saw the same spaniels with the Terra Ceramics sticker on Trade Me a few months ago. May be they will turn up again.
haselnuss- Number of posts : 970
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Re: So is this a Crown Lynn deer?
Another CB with the number 16 incised green pottery piece.
This time a 40cm long fish that might have been copied from Blue Mountain.
It is not a Hobby piece. I think it could have been made by Cam Brown and the 16 might be the mold number. Any thoughts?
Kat's CB signed fawn from this thread.
And my goose.
Dollcrown's CTB goose.
My Maid Marion jug.
This time a 40cm long fish that might have been copied from Blue Mountain.
It is not a Hobby piece. I think it could have been made by Cam Brown and the 16 might be the mold number. Any thoughts?
Kat's CB signed fawn from this thread.
And my goose.
Dollcrown's CTB goose.
My Maid Marion jug.
haselnuss- Number of posts : 970
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Re: So is this a Crown Lynn deer?
Sounds good to me & isn't it amazing it hasnt broken 40cm is big.
Kat & Co.- Number of posts : 2321
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Re: So is this a Crown Lynn deer?
I've added the fish to the Aquila Gallery with question marks and I hope we see another that has a label one day to confirm your findings haselnuss.
Re: So is this a Crown Lynn deer?
I'll keep looking for one with an Aquila sticker. I am very happy that it didn't break in the post and carefully cleaned it to then place it at the back of my green shelf just in case we have an earthquake.
haselnuss- Number of posts : 970
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Re: So is this a Crown Lynn deer?
Saw this Blue Mountain Deer today and it's a similar shape to the one at the beginning of this topic, except that it is facing the other way and it is smaller than mine.
It has been slipcast with red clay, like those retro lamp shades !!
The ears are placed differently and .... there is no outer 'skirt'.
Perhaps a Kiwi copied these?
It has been slipcast with red clay, like those retro lamp shades !!
The ears are placed differently and .... there is no outer 'skirt'.
Perhaps a Kiwi copied these?
Blue-green vase
Is the little blue-green vase pictured with the fawn back in August Crown Lynn? I saw one in an op shop today but can't remember if it had any numbers.
Minnie Moocher- Number of posts : 11
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Re: So is this a Crown Lynn deer?
Gosh Minnie I can't work out what you are referring to.
Maybe tell me which photo down eg Photo 2
Maybe tell me which photo down eg Photo 2
Re: So is this a Crown Lynn deer?
This one Minnie? This is a Titian Vase ..here's a link with more info here ..
https://www.newzealandpottery.net/t1678-paramount-art-ware?highlight=magnolia
https://www.newzealandpottery.net/t1678-paramount-art-ware?highlight=magnolia
Kat & Co.- Number of posts : 2321
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Re: So is this a Crown Lynn deer?
That's it, thank you. I'm still finding my way around the site.
Minnie Moocher- Number of posts : 11
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From Ernie Cooper
I am working on my notes for Terra Ceramics and I rediscovered this email from Ernie Cooper (co-founder of Terra Ceramics) which I thought might shed some light on this thread. A couple of years ago I sent Ernie the link to this thread and asked if he could help. I think I have mentioned this elsewhere on the site but below is a cut-and paste of what Ernie sent me. Also note his second paragraph:
Time to let you into a little secret! Most of the Terra product range was sold through John Denton Ltd an importer and distributor of ceramics and other giftware based in Parnell. I'm not sure if he was the importer of Blue Mountain but he gave me a piece together with a brochure from the company and asked me to copy the glaze. I did this quite successfully and a lot of our artware (ie Terra - note from Val) was produced with the black glaze and an over glaze containing tin and copper. The first batch that came out of the kiln was absolutely perfect and it included a lot of Hobby ceramic shapes from Furnace Engineering, including some vases. It is easy to pick the Terra & BM as BM had the red terracotta body. The glaze proved to be a bit temperamental some pieces were almost identical to BM and others were not as vibrant. We did not use lustre which is a separate low-temperature firing technique.
Furnace engineering were heavily into hobby ceramics and as they were co-owners of Terra Ceramics with me we freely exchanged moulds and glaze recipes. So you will find pieces decorated with traditional Terra honey glaze (and) the same pieces decorated with outlandish hobby ceramic glazes. Note here Ernie is talking about John and Sandra Homer who had an extensive Hobby Ceramics business as well as being co-owners of Terra with Ernie.
Time to let you into a little secret! Most of the Terra product range was sold through John Denton Ltd an importer and distributor of ceramics and other giftware based in Parnell. I'm not sure if he was the importer of Blue Mountain but he gave me a piece together with a brochure from the company and asked me to copy the glaze. I did this quite successfully and a lot of our artware (ie Terra - note from Val) was produced with the black glaze and an over glaze containing tin and copper. The first batch that came out of the kiln was absolutely perfect and it included a lot of Hobby ceramic shapes from Furnace Engineering, including some vases. It is easy to pick the Terra & BM as BM had the red terracotta body. The glaze proved to be a bit temperamental some pieces were almost identical to BM and others were not as vibrant. We did not use lustre which is a separate low-temperature firing technique.
Furnace engineering were heavily into hobby ceramics and as they were co-owners of Terra Ceramics with me we freely exchanged moulds and glaze recipes. So you will find pieces decorated with traditional Terra honey glaze (and) the same pieces decorated with outlandish hobby ceramic glazes. Note here Ernie is talking about John and Sandra Homer who had an extensive Hobby Ceramics business as well as being co-owners of Terra with Ernie.
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