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yet another Ambrico handleless cup
Brian's gift: another Ambrico handleless cup, and another set of measurements
Other topics of interest to this discussion:
https://www.newzealandpottery.net/t7395-nzr-shards-ambrico-nzr-railway-cups-1939-43#29321
https://www.newzealandpottery.net/t6574-is-this-an-nzr-type-beaker-no-it-s-an-ambrico-us-navy-mug#2601
https://www.newzealandpottery.net/t6629-ambrico-e-w-cups-and-saucers-like-smaller-railway-cups#26225
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**Please note that measurements for the same items may vary between topics. This may be a result of different measuring processes and devices. The only reliable way to compare the different pottery pieces is side by side.**
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Here's the straw-coloured Ambrico handleless mug Brian Ronson gave me on Saturday. I had expected it to match my straw-coloured NZR shard, but it does not!
73mm H x 80 OD top x 50 OD footring
It is measurably smaller, being closer in size to the white NZR shard, but larger than the latter and thinner in body than both, by 1mm.
75mm H x 83 OD top: 73 x 80 x 50 OD footring: 71.5 x 77 x 48
While the dimensions place it between the different NZR shards in size I think the thinner body would make it a later piece.
75mm H x 83 OD top: 71.5 x 77 x 48 OD footring: 73 x 80 x 50: ditto
a possible chronology
I now see it as a size and shape match for my similar straw cup, also shown above, which has an early block handle. This leaves only the other block handle cup, gloworm's one, to compare ... until I find more!
Also of interest in this discussion is the vitrified Ambrico US Navy handleless mug. I have photographed that in comparison with the new earthenware cup to show that while they appear to be the same shape, the size difference is huge, and unless shot side by side (as in the first three rows) they appear to be the same (bottom row).
As the Auckland Museum files do not record sizes I relied on other distinctions, specifically the relative body thickness, but more obviously the NZR stamp, to distinguish NZR beaker K3905 from US Navy beakers K3910, K5045, and K6357.
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Other topics of interest to this discussion:
https://www.newzealandpottery.net/t7395-nzr-shards-ambrico-nzr-railway-cups-1939-43#29321
https://www.newzealandpottery.net/t6574-is-this-an-nzr-type-beaker-no-it-s-an-ambrico-us-navy-mug#2601
https://www.newzealandpottery.net/t6629-ambrico-e-w-cups-and-saucers-like-smaller-railway-cups#26225
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**Please note that measurements for the same items may vary between topics. This may be a result of different measuring processes and devices. The only reliable way to compare the different pottery pieces is side by side.**
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Here's the straw-coloured Ambrico handleless mug Brian Ronson gave me on Saturday. I had expected it to match my straw-coloured NZR shard, but it does not!
73mm H x 80 OD top x 50 OD footring
It is measurably smaller, being closer in size to the white NZR shard, but larger than the latter and thinner in body than both, by 1mm.
75mm H x 83 OD top: 73 x 80 x 50 OD footring: 71.5 x 77 x 48
While the dimensions place it between the different NZR shards in size I think the thinner body would make it a later piece.
75mm H x 83 OD top: 71.5 x 77 x 48 OD footring: 73 x 80 x 50: ditto
a possible chronology
I now see it as a size and shape match for my similar straw cup, also shown above, which has an early block handle. This leaves only the other block handle cup, gloworm's one, to compare ... until I find more!
Also of interest in this discussion is the vitrified Ambrico US Navy handleless mug. I have photographed that in comparison with the new earthenware cup to show that while they appear to be the same shape, the size difference is huge, and unless shot side by side (as in the first three rows) they appear to be the same (bottom row).
As the Auckland Museum files do not record sizes I relied on other distinctions, specifically the relative body thickness, but more obviously the NZR stamp, to distinguish NZR beaker K3905 from US Navy beakers K3910, K5045, and K6357.
.
Last edited by Jeremy Ashford on Thu 28 Apr - 10:18; edited 1 time in total
Jeremy Ashford- Number of posts : 3193
Location : Whangarei, New Zealand
Registration date : 2010-09-11
Re: yet another Ambrico handleless cup
This appears to be an insulator cup Jeremy ....
https://www.newzealandpottery.net/t465-a-handless-cup-or-maybe-a-power-pole-insulator-yes-it-s-an-insulator-cup?highlight=handless#1133
https://www.newzealandpottery.net/t465-a-handless-cup-or-maybe-a-power-pole-insulator-yes-it-s-an-insulator-cup?highlight=handless#1133
Re: yet another Ambrico handleless cup
Appears but is not.
Ambrico, straw-coloured earthenware. Pre-1948.
Even smaller than the smaller (of two sizes of) vitrified insulator cups from the 1960s.
Ambrico, straw-coloured earthenware. Pre-1948.
Even smaller than the smaller (of two sizes of) vitrified insulator cups from the 1960s.
Jeremy Ashford- Number of posts : 3193
Location : Whangarei, New Zealand
Registration date : 2010-09-11
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