Crown Lynn 2061/JH9/8037 peanut bowl, 2079/JH17 for gallery?

I am pretty sure that this bowl that I posted on the Flower Beauty thread is the 2061, the JH9 and the 8037.


See museum picture below.
http://www.nzmuseums.co.nz/account/3384/object/489778/Flower_bowl

And the forum gallery picture.


Also John posted the 2079 or JH17 sometime ago on the same thread.

Woooo thanks haselnuss as these went under my radar!

The 2061 has measurements of 165mm on this diagram which I would like you to check out please

Editing out the Portage Museum record of this piece.

I will check the 2097 as the drawing shows it is 167mm and I have one.

Yes my 2097 is 167mm wide so I will add John's one to the Gallery

Edits to add that I agree with you for the 2061/JH9 haselnuss as I saw a bigger pic in the titian gallery.

Your post opened up a big can of worms as I found only a few of the flower beauty shapes were in the Titian Gallery, so after much cross checking and so on I think it is now all in order and correct

Yep, The 2061 measures 16.5cm.

Floral Art For All, A complete guide to flower arranging, Specially written for New Zealand conditions by Margaret Albrechtsen published 1970 has heaps of the Titian JH series vases on display and also a couple of table place settings using Dorothy Thorpes Pine series.

I think these could be Titian made vases because of the publishers date of 1970 which is a few years before the Flower Beauty book was published using the Crown Lynn made vases.

Or is he time frame to short because of C/L takeover of the Titian factory? What is the exact date of the takeover?

This wooden base is featured on the Floral Art books cover with a different white vase.

Off the top of my head, I recall that Titian went public with their company about 1965 and Crown Lynn started buying shares and gradually they bought out the company.  By 1971  Crown Lynn were recording their own shapes being made at the Titian factory and Cam Brown and family had moved out and started Orzels at Drury according to ynotbrich who has a glaze book of theirs that starts in 1971.

Anyone can add more if they want to .....