Working on the Crown Lynn Patterns Database

Ev wrote:Hospital Vitrified Colour Glaze 305 ...... this could be the vitrified Teal couldn't it?/?

I would say that Teal appears to be the most common plain colour for vitrified ware, so that makes sense.

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More Hompty:
https://www.newzealandpottery.net/t1023-nursery-rhymes-by-kelston-of-new-zealand-d988#3692
It's a much fuller pattern but mrnarna's one has no backstamp showing so I do not know if it is Humpty or another d988 Nursery Rhymes as per its topic.

Between the two photos there are four distinct Humpty images of varying sizes.

vit teal is 270
305 comes up as Caramel Vit (spreadsheet.. which is compiled from museum notes)
459 - brown vitrified

Homestead  Kelston Ceramics D444 comes up on my notes - Is solid brown could be Colonial brown D444 and maybe "Homestead" is the group they belong too like "Avondale" -- Info from TM Traders
On spreadsheet - D444 and D123 both say Homestead

Laura - Museum notes say 855 ( no photos)  - but the 2 I have saved are Laura 858 which is the same image as the gallery one - I have reference to Laura 855 and 858 in a spreadsheet.. which is compiled from museum notes..  So that's strange!

calypso - I have only 253 - Image from TM ( toledo pattern )


Image from Musuem - Number unsure


calypso British - backstamp on various item- different colours

Cornwall 185 - is some thing different again -- looks like
Hedgerow Avondale Selection d428 but on clover
edits:- photo removed

could this be it? No backstamp



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EV wrote:Gold Bouquet 946 in the Database ... is this Golden Bouquet in the Gallery

946 - I have as Ashleigh    -- British Golden Bouquet I don't have a number

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In my notes I have
00037 says Honey also 210 says Honey and 430 HoneyGlaze


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Lynfield- I have this as Lynette D949



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Humpty dumpty looks like the plate - I agree

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J. Yes several colours for the colurglaze plates -- Capri is colourglaze, they changed the name in the late 60's
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Coco  - we need the brown version in the gallery
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Also - more I see in the notes .... I think that
945 and 960 should be "THC Blue" and "THC Maroon"  and Blue Tango 423
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The Narvik on 2 numbers is that a colour difference? Who is it on here has a big collection of Narvik?
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I have checked everything else and draw the same results as you -- so far so good    
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Coco has at least three different colours and the one in the Gallery is one of them.

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Is that Cornwall 185 your pic Janice?  Can we use it in the Gallery?

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I found another Humpty Dumpty pattern so will leave this for now.

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I need to check out those Ozzie adverts to confirm the plain brown Apollo patterns!

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I will add the Disney pattern to the gallery as 807

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The THC is also written a few different ways and I will have to check them out.  I'm thinking that there is a THC pattern with a red line and another with a blue line?  Why do I think this?  Found a listing http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=811919088

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Mc Callum jug 546 is in the Database ....... help?

Moonstone ...... for some reason I thought we had this pattern?

Mug Double Dipped 689 ..... I think this will be Jeremy's mug and I must add it to the Gallery.

Mushroom Vitrified pat.no.13 ..... this will be the plain mushroom that goes with Reflections. Must put it in the Gallery!

NZ Flowers Q1200 I'm sure we have mugs somewhere with NZ Flowers ....?

NZ Railway 289 ...... which is this pattern?

NZ Railway Silverstar ..... hmmm I thought this was in the Gallery, but I can't find it.

Nursery Ware 889 .... I don't think I could find this anywhere????

Olive Oil Q1802 and Popeye Q1800 & Q1801 ... I've seen these, but don't think they are on the site.

Ovenware 505 and 506 ......What are these referring to?????

Ovenware 871 and Mustards 107 ..... arghhhh?????

Pink Clematis 514 ..... betazoid just listed this pattern, but buggered if I can find it now!

So many Plain Whites ..... I need to go through these one at a time !!!

Patio Rose in Gallery doesn't have a number, but database has 810 and 47 ...?

Penpot 992 Pen Holder SB79 Do these mean anything to anyone???

Persello ..... isn't in the gallery, but I thought we had that pattern.....?

The Kiwi Sports mugs I thought I put into the gallery ages ago, but they weren't there when I cross checked, so I've put them in. !!

ev wrote:Is that Cornwall 185 your pic Janice?  Can we use it in the Gallery?

No... I will have to remove it... The BB plate I have I think is Hedgerow

Ev wrote:The THC is also written a few different ways and I will have to check them out.  I'm thinking that there is a THC pattern with a red line and another with a blue line?  Why do I think this?  Found a listing http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=811919088

I have one of those brown lined plates !! with THC on the backstamp.... I am not convinced with your thoughts LOL
edits... look what I found !!! -- take a look at this ! Is that maroon or brown?

Deco might show the Hotel against the deco number..


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MNOP  -- I am no help there  
I agree with 00013 Mushroom vit glaze -
Patio Rose ( british ) is one I have but no number
Pink Clematis -- all photos off TM, I have a pin dish of the flower but not on the fabrique background..
Silver star - I have but which is it?

I have taken the image off

Mug double dipped 689

Ev, I guess you were probably referring to the blue, but remember there are a ton of brown double dips on various cup and mug shapes.

I'll look at more later: it's dinner time.

[quote="Jeremy Ashford"]Mug double dipped 689
Ev, I guess you were probably referring to the blue, but remember there are a ton of brown double dips on various cup and mug shapes.[quote]

Yes there are many different colours, but it's the three colour variations that double dipping give that make me sure that this is one of them.

It's brown.




Could NZ Railway 289 be these?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Antiques-collectables/Automotive-transport/Trains/auction-802505816.htm

NZ Railway 289 ... very possible.

Rather than start a special topic I'm slipping this on in here.
No idea of pattern numbers.

"Just kids"

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Pottery-glass/Porcelain-pottery/Crown-Lynn/Cups-saucers/auction-812678113.htm

This clowns mug on tm differs from the Clown mug in "show us ..."

https://www.newzealandpottery.net/t2158p15-show-us-your-mugs-crown-lynn-of-course#9768

Just Kids has this written on the base
that's a cute clown mug and I will check it out when I get home re the shape.

Also I'm happy that the brown line THC isn't the one we are after.

Yes that is one of the Just Kids Children's Mug Gift Packs and there are 3 designs.  I will save that one to my files.  Thank you!

I think I have one of those "just kids" designs mug.. I will photograph soon

Rhyme Times 650 does anyone have an example?  
I can only see one listing on tm from years ago and I don't know what it looks like.

Rose Marie British in the Gallery doesn't have a number and the Database has a pattern called Rose Marie 807 ..... could this be the same pattern?

We don't have Rusticanna 692 in the Gallery or Rusticanna Vit 705.  Why not??

That's all for that gallery

This gallery has lots of queries from me ...
Samarkand d22800 is in the Gallery which is in the Database along with
Samarkand 236?  Any ideas?

Santos 503 is in the Gallery and Database, but the Database also has Santos 656, Santos Bronze 658 and Santos Brown 659.  Any idea?

Seagrass 412 is in the Gallery and Database, however the Database also has Seagrass 473 and Seagrass Rusty 871.  Any thoughts?

Silver Birds Q2201 .... There are some in the Show us your Mugs topic I think?

Snowdrop 249 ... this is in the patterns book, but there isn't a pic.  Any ideas?

Soup De Jour 990  Do we have this somewhere?  It sounds familiar ....

Sylvia Corvette Grey 423 ..... we have Sylvia Corvette 419 do we have the 423?

Sporting Scenes J2100 sounds like a series on mugs or similar.  Any ideas?

T H C 939 .... so could this be the pattern with the thin brown band?

Tapestry 348 is in the Gallery which is an all over pattern.  Tapestry Blue 347 will be the same all over pattern in blue.  Does anyone have this?

Tosca 927 is in the Gallery and Database.  Tosca 702 is in the Database and there is a Tosca in the Gallery that doesn't have a number.  Could they be the same?

Tradition 613 is in the Database, but not in the Gallery .... any ideas please?

Travelodge Rotorua 148 and Travelodge Vit 307 are in the Database but not in our Gallery ......

That's all for the S,T Gallery

Ev says"Sporting Scenes J2100 sounds like a series on mugs or similar. Any ideas?"

Ev could this be the series of cartoons - fishing, rugby, cross country running etc?

Maryr wrote:Ev says"Sporting Scenes J2100 sounds like a series on mugs or similar.  Any ideas?"

Ev could this be the series of cartoons - fishing, rugby, cross country running etc?

Yes of course! We may have some of those in the Show us Your Mugs topic ..... I will check when I get a moment. Thanks!

I will have a look into this later as I need to go out soon..
Travelodge Rotorua 148  - is in the monogram gallery
Tradition 613 - Is in the musuem notes, think its a rose type pattern ( ) unsure

ev wrote:Santos 503 is in the Gallery and Database, but the Database also has Santos 656, Santos Bronze 658 and Santos Brown 659.  Any idea?

would those be the "coffee bean pattern" in different colours

Thanks Janice, I've used the other motif on the Travel Lodge Rotorua plate for the Tableware Gallery. That was made in 1968 going be the backstamp and they are rarely seen.

Ev wrote:
Colonial Brown doesn't have a number in the gallery.  Database has Colonial Brown d444 ..... could this be one and the same?

We don't have Colonial Gold 442 in the Gallery ....?  It's in the database.  I thought we found this in the Ozzie adverts ...?

The Portage have a box of Colonial Brown d440 saucers shape 4619, so this will have to be checked out to see if it's the same as what we have in the Gallery...... vitrified hmmm

Ev-

ev wrote:The Portage have a box of Colonial Brown d440 saucers shape 4619

I searched on site and can't find the saucers- have you got the link, please?

My notes.. I have D444 as Homestead which is showing plain brown on a fluted plate.
I am confused to which is which

Sorry I meant to add the link -
http://www.nzmuseums.co.nz/account/3384/object/490865/Box_for_Genuine_Ironstone_dinnerware

It doesn't show the saucers, but the 4619 shape is a vitrified coupe shape with thickened rim .... I'm confused too, so this will have to be checked out when we visit the Museum.