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Suzanne Bloch-Jorgensen
15cmh scent pot
Kat & Co.- Number of posts : 2321
Location : Whangarei
Registration date : 2012-12-03
Re: Suzanne Bloch-Jorgensen
Very nice indeed !! Love the glazing.
There is a guy who has an almost identical mark to Suzanne and his name won't come to me atm, but it will when I least expect it I've seen him correct auctions on trademe when the potter has been incorrectly named.
There is a guy who has an almost identical mark to Suzanne and his name won't come to me atm, but it will when I least expect it I've seen him correct auctions on trademe when the potter has been incorrectly named.
Re: Suzanne Bloch-Jorgensen
Would that be Peter Burmeister mark that is similar?
This is the Auction I recognised my pot from..definately made by a female me thinks.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=801408827
This is the Auction I recognised my pot from..definately made by a female me thinks.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=801408827
Kat & Co.- Number of posts : 2321
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Re: Suzanne Bloch-Jorgensen
Yes I totally agree that is Suzanne's work and now I had to find the name of the guy with the similar mark.
It's Bill Schiessel and if you have the Potters Marks book check out both of the marks and see the similarities.
It's Bill Schiessel and if you have the Potters Marks book check out both of the marks and see the similarities.
Re: Suzanne Bloch-Jorgensen
No i dont have the book just go off whats on the NZ Potters.com website, i had been keen to get the book once, but if it has alot of mistakes Im not. Do you know much about the NZ Potters marks website, does it get updated, corrected etc? Bill Schiessel not on it.
Kat & Co.- Number of posts : 2321
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Re: Suzanne Bloch-Jorgensen
I have been involved with the NZ Potters marks and they keep getting new marks as well as mistakes corrected. There are heaps of mistakes still and I keep finding more. It's odd that Bill isn't on their website as all of the marks are supposed to be there that are in the book and I will check it out. The book is only a guide, but I treasure my copy and use it daily.
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Mug: SB-J or Bill Schiessel?
8cm H x 8.5 OD at lip
Last edited by Jeremy Ashford on Thu 13 Nov - 13:14; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : Title change)
Jeremy Ashford- Number of posts : 3193
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Re: Suzanne Bloch-Jorgensen
I think I missed this and is the mark the same or different to the one above? I will have to put them side by side. Bill Schiessel gets very annoyed when he sees his work attributed to Suzanne Bloc-Jorgensen.
Already I can see that these are not the same mark .... and we now may have Bill's mark. Please comment to confirm or deny my thoughts.
Jeremy's mug on the left and Suzanne's mark on the right.
Already I can see that these are not the same mark .... and we now may have Bill's mark. Please comment to confirm or deny my thoughts.
Jeremy's mug on the left and Suzanne's mark on the right.
Re: Suzanne Bloch-Jorgensen
Ev, the only Bill Schiessel mark I could find appeared to be in a circle rather than a rounded square and looked like it didn't have the tail of the J/S.
The clays in the two marks above are different and as mine is coarse it may lack detail.
The mug looks like it may have a closer relationship to BS than SB-J.
It's all unfamiliar territory to me.
The clays in the two marks above are different and as mine is coarse it may lack detail.
The mug looks like it may have a closer relationship to BS than SB-J.
It's all unfamiliar territory to me.
Jeremy Ashford- Number of posts : 3193
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Re: Suzanne Bloch-Jorgensen
Your mug looks masculine & hippy 70's coloured.. me thinks...
Kat & Co.- Number of posts : 2321
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Re: Suzanne Bloch-Jorgensen
Suzanne has confirmed that both of those marks are hers.
She said that she has used two similar stamps and the mug was made a long time ago. I will add the older mark to the Potters Marks Gallery for the record
Thank you Suzanne.
She said that she has used two similar stamps and the mug was made a long time ago. I will add the older mark to the Potters Marks Gallery for the record
Thank you Suzanne.
Re: Suzanne Bloch-Jorgensen
Oh thats great to have Suzanne confirm that!, I have found I do have Bill Schiessels mark.
in my Alan Coates book..its a very similar mark...
in my Alan Coates book..its a very similar mark...
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Kat & Co.- Number of posts : 2321
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Re: Suzanne Bloch-Jorgensen
Now we just need Bill to confirm his mark.
Kat you are breaking copyright by putting up Alan's marks and I would like you to remove them please, as it will be me that he takes to task. If you have permission and acknowledge him that is fine. Thanks.
Kat you are breaking copyright by putting up Alan's marks and I would like you to remove them please, as it will be me that he takes to task. If you have permission and acknowledge him that is fine. Thanks.
Re: Suzanne Bloch-Jorgensen
no worris
Kat & Co.- Number of posts : 2321
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block and bloch
When I last read this topic I was left with the impression that the mug I had posted was the work of Bill Schiessel. I totally missed Suzanne's comment that it was indeed her work.
That makes sense of this, which certainly gave me pause for thought:
mugs by father and daughter:
(left) Michael Block
(right) Suzanne Bloch-Jorgensen
Same clay, same glaze, same handle.
https://www.newzealandpottery.net/t6881-michael-block-mug#27190
All prompted by a tm purchase of two large and lovely mugs by Suzanne.
98mm H x 85 OD top
The final picture compares the old and more recent mugs by SB-J, which have the two variants on her stamp as seen in a previous post.
That makes sense of this, which certainly gave me pause for thought:
mugs by father and daughter:
(left) Michael Block
(right) Suzanne Bloch-Jorgensen
Same clay, same glaze, same handle.
https://www.newzealandpottery.net/t6881-michael-block-mug#27190
All prompted by a tm purchase of two large and lovely mugs by Suzanne.
98mm H x 85 OD top
The final picture compares the old and more recent mugs by SB-J, which have the two variants on her stamp as seen in a previous post.
Jeremy Ashford- Number of posts : 3193
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Re: Suzanne Bloch-Jorgensen
Ev wrote:Now we just need Bill to confirm his mark.
Kat you are breaking copyright by putting up Alan's marks and I would like you to remove them please, as it will be me that he takes to task. If you have permission and acknowledge him that is fine. Thanks.
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Thanks so much for this wonderful educational website!
sarah and Cloud- Number of posts : 17
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Re: Suzanne Bloch-Jorgensen
Thanks for that sarah and Cloud
We often get copied and pasted and quoted and misquoted from this site, so we prefer to use the permission and acknowledgement idea for copyrights, as one heck of a lot of time and sweat has gone into gathering all of this resource, by many people.
We often get copied and pasted and quoted and misquoted from this site, so we prefer to use the permission and acknowledgement idea for copyrights, as one heck of a lot of time and sweat has gone into gathering all of this resource, by many people.
Re: Suzanne Bloch-Jorgensen
That red and the blue glazes are also typical of her work.
Her father Michael Block also used those glazes.
Her father Michael Block also used those glazes.
Re: Suzanne Bloch-Jorgensen
I just searched Michael Block - I see... I guess its like passing down the line " Mama's favorite pea soup recipe" LOL but in this case glazes and not food !
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