Orzel Abbeville

I have accumulated three different jars, almost certainly Orzel,with Abbeville moulded into the shapes. There is a historic homestead by this name down near the Auckland airport - see http://www.abbeville.co.nz/index.html


The tall jar has a distinctive Abbeville design, the others have a more subtle design on the side. All are unmarked on the base.  They are all nicely made with proper foot rings.  The tall bottle is 19cm, the others 10 and 11.
Ev I can provide separate pics if you want them for the gallery, it just seemed a bit overkill....?

Val, could you please add the widths as well.
We have three shapes (sizes) already, might be four,
so one of these MAY be a duplicate. (Or not!)

I have three.
It would be nice to get them all together in one picture.

See also:
http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/t2478-abbeville-new-zealand#7261

Love the bottle!

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There has been a four inch one of these sitting at Sallies for a few weeks, unless that is the one you have above.

So these look like Orzel and everything points to Orzel and yet you have one that has a Royal Oak sticker on it, is that correct Jeremy?   *Dies a little*

Not my one, but yes, that sticker remains a bit of a problem.

Consider this. They are commercial packaging and would not have been sold with a competing label, so I think someone played with it.

Val suggests Orzel too, but we may both be relying on your topic on Orzel sugar with the sand glaze.

The closest to a mark on any of mine is a "New Zealand" diagonally across the bottom, similar to Orzel/Adelaar Colonial.

I have seen some Royal Oak used for packaging, but only standard cylindrical canister in cream/clear and brown. No marks, recognised only by shape.

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Mine are here ...
http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/t4378-orzel-adelaar-ink-pot-or-maybe-just-packaging#15935

... and here:
http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/t4523-four-more-orzel-shapes#16006

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With the addition of the bottle,
I think we have a total of FIVE shapes of sand glaze container now.

Oh dear. I have to learn to always do a search of the site before launching into a new topic. I will do a bit more measuring and pondering later.

I have measured my Abbeville jars.  Widest point across the base:

Bottle = 6cm
Short jar = 6.5 cm
Larger jar = 10.5 cm

I have also compared  my Abbeville set with other containers.  They closely resemble my kitchen jars with Adelaar marks. Eg Colonial Ware. I am also about to post another with the same speckled glaze which is marked Orzel Potteries.  Here it is.
http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/t4951-orzel-potteries-aquila-jar-for-gallery#18213

Val, I think your two (other than the bottle) must be the same as mine.
Allowing for different people measuring they are near enough the same.

A different, but related subject:    Ceramic caps/tops on corks.

My middle-sized "Abbeville", referred to in this topic has one;
I have seen one on a Royal Oak oil bottle at Jules' Waipu shop; and
firehorse6 (trademe) has one on the cork of a Ti-toki bottle atop her china cabinet.

I guess these tend to fall off or get lost with original corks.
It's a delight to see them intact.

Note that the Abbeville range was confirmed as Orzel by Cam and Beverley Brown. Abbeville made pickles etc and was a long-standing customer or Orzel.

I have the short jar, it has a very clear Orzel mark.

Thanks Nosmada, I have not previously seen an Abbevillle jar with the Orzel mark.