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Re: Parker Pottery Bottle Lincoln Wines
Old Yellow Pages are full of history
Parker Pottery is listed under Pottery Manufacturers
1981 - Handcrafted domestic ware and garden planters 14 Woodruffe Ave Henderson
1983 - Lamp Bases, Custom & Domestic ware Domestic Duoze (sic) 14 Woodruffe Ave, Henderson
1984 - Handcrafted Customware, Ceramic containers, made to your requirements
1985 - 14 Woodruffe Ave, Henderson
1987 - 14 Woodruffe Ave, Henderson
1988 - 14 Woodruffe Ave, Henderson
It's interesting to note that Hemara Pottery was listed at the same address in 1990 and 1991.
Parker Pottery is listed under Pottery Manufacturers
1981 - Handcrafted domestic ware and garden planters 14 Woodruffe Ave Henderson
1983 - Lamp Bases, Custom & Domestic ware Domestic Duoze (sic) 14 Woodruffe Ave, Henderson
1984 - Handcrafted Customware, Ceramic containers, made to your requirements
1985 - 14 Woodruffe Ave, Henderson
1987 - 14 Woodruffe Ave, Henderson
1988 - 14 Woodruffe Ave, Henderson
It's interesting to note that Hemara Pottery was listed at the same address in 1990 and 1991.
Another Lincoln Vineyard bottle
Hi All, I have another different bottle from Lincoln Vineyards as in the photograph. It's almost round, same both sides, stands 21cm tall and it's full. I contacted Peter Fredatovich about this and his reply. 'We sold Tangata Port crocks in the 1970's, one colour only, limited Edition made by Normal Parker, Parker Potteries, Henderson. Hope this helps"
Cheers Alan
Val Monk was told that Tam Mitchell modelled this by his widow Val Mitchell.
Kiwialan- Number of posts : 3
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Re: Parker Pottery Bottle Lincoln Wines
Fantastic thanks Kiwialan
A shame that Norman Parker cannot remember the modellers names.
A shame that Norman Parker cannot remember the modellers names.
Re: Parker Pottery Bottle Lincoln Wines
I have one of those Lincoln Wines bottles too, and it appears they are worth much more than I thought??
http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=586320132
http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=586320132
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Re: Parker Pottery Bottle Lincoln Wines
That auction is incredibly ridiculous
I think you are referring to this beautiful bottle of mine sunny
I paid $70 for it about 5 years ago -
http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/t374-parker-pottery?highlight=parker#969
I think you are referring to this beautiful bottle of mine sunny
I paid $70 for it about 5 years ago -
http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/t374-parker-pottery?highlight=parker#969
Re: Parker Pottery Bottle Lincoln Wines
Yes Ev, I have the same one as you and paid $100 for it just a wee while back. The $500 they want is not even the reserve I think they are hoping someone with too much money in their pocket will fall for the advertising and start a bidding war. I believe that what we paid for ours is much more realistic.
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two Lincoln Wines bottles by Parker Pottery
Peter Fredatovich has been selling the unused Wharetana shaped bottles recently.
I jumped on the unused port bottle pretty much as soon as it appeared (I was just 2nd view).
Next thing another Wharetana one pops up. That's gone now too.
two Lincoln Wines bottle by Parker Pottery
And the auction for the remains:
https://www.newzealandpottery.net/t7323-wow-wow-wow-wow-wow-wow-and-wow-lincoln-wines#29084
I jumped on the unused port bottle pretty much as soon as it appeared (I was just 2nd view).
Next thing another Wharetana one pops up. That's gone now too.
two Lincoln Wines bottle by Parker Pottery
And the auction for the remains:
https://www.newzealandpottery.net/t7323-wow-wow-wow-wow-wow-wow-and-wow-lincoln-wines#29084
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The Norman Parker bottles. The designer who had worked at Crown Lynn
might possibly have been Peter Cooke.
He certainly modelled under contract.
The maori motive that is adhered to this vase is a sample of his work.
It was created and glazed by Owen Salisbury during the 1960s.
might possibly have been Peter Cooke.
He certainly modelled under contract.
The maori motive that is adhered to this vase is a sample of his work.
It was created and glazed by Owen Salisbury during the 1960s.
oakpot- Number of posts : 109
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Re: Parker Pottery Bottle Lincoln Wines
You may be right oakpot as I didn't mention Peter Cooke to Norm Parker.
This Maori motive reminds me of some of the small bottles from Orzel.
I will try to find one to compare.
This Maori motive reminds me of some of the small bottles from Orzel.
I will try to find one to compare.
Re: Parker Pottery Bottle Lincoln Wines
So I've just been informed by Ev that the Parker bottle was designed by HH. Ev did you want to tell everyone what you told me? As a side note: This seems to fit in quite well with the time Dave Jenkins retired and Parker hired someone who had worked with HH and had access to the unused designs. I'm off to the museum this week to get the lowdown.
TimCaulton- Number of posts : 163
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Re: Parker Pottery Bottle Lincoln Wines
Tim, I'm waiting to research Harry's writings, hoping then I can identify the bottle with it's Shape number. I want to add that David Jenkin was involved with the Wharetana Ware range.
Re: Parker Pottery Bottle Lincoln Wines
Hi Ev, can you just give me a basic rundown of the shape number. I am not very familiar with Crown Lynn. But I do know that the bottle in the museum has nothing on its base. The museum sent me an image of it. Also the one sold at A+O in the Drummond collection didn't have a number either.....or branding of any sort. The Parker moulds have a very simple separate plaster base with the Parker and Lincoln brands....easy to change or remove. I know as I had a go. So it's still possible that David Jenkin had a hand in its design? I asked his daughter about it but she didn't recall anything. But best to check all the paperwork as you say. I think this might just get solved completely. Which would be a major bit of research success. I'm hoping to go to the CL museum this week to talk to who ever I find there!
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Re: Parker Pottery Bottle Lincoln Wines
Tim here are the Wharetana Ware shapes and numbers that we have confirmed so far ...
https://www.newzealandpottery.net/gallery/More-Crown-Lynn-Galleries/Wharetana-Ware/Wharetana-Ware-cat_c3.htm
There are several shapes missing : 1016, 1030, 1035, 1036, 1037, 1038 and perhaps more after 1043, not sure?
I saw Harry's records briefly at Te Toi Uku and noticed that there were shape numbers that we didn't have and information varied. The family seemed to be very interested in finding information and photos of all of the shapes for reference and we agreed that I would go through all of Harry's records with them. For various reasons this hasn't happened and I'm trying to work out what to do next.
https://www.newzealandpottery.net/gallery/More-Crown-Lynn-Galleries/Wharetana-Ware/Wharetana-Ware-cat_c3.htm
There are several shapes missing : 1016, 1030, 1035, 1036, 1037, 1038 and perhaps more after 1043, not sure?
I saw Harry's records briefly at Te Toi Uku and noticed that there were shape numbers that we didn't have and information varied. The family seemed to be very interested in finding information and photos of all of the shapes for reference and we agreed that I would go through all of Harry's records with them. For various reasons this hasn't happened and I'm trying to work out what to do next.
Re: Parker Pottery Bottle Lincoln Wines
Ok yes I get it now. And yes it can be hard working when things get in the way. Hopefully some info will come from it all. It's like I always say "don't ask, don't get"
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Re: Parker Pottery Bottle Lincoln Wines
Re the David Jenkin connection to Wharetana:
Gail Henry mentions that Harry (Hargreaves) became involved with Dave Jenkin in the development of a range of Maori artware shapes called Wharatana (sic) on page 200.
I have seen other references as well and one that sticks in my mind is David Jenkin saying how proud he was of Wharetana Ware.
I also have checked with Sue the daughter of David Jenkin to see if she has any knowledge of her Dad's connection to Wharetana Ware and she responded that she only knew what was in Val Monk's book. As this range was developed in the 1940's it may have been too early for her to remember, unlike the 3 Faces of Eve lampbase, which she recalls readily.
Gail Henry mentions that Harry (Hargreaves) became involved with Dave Jenkin in the development of a range of Maori artware shapes called Wharatana (sic) on page 200.
I have seen other references as well and one that sticks in my mind is David Jenkin saying how proud he was of Wharetana Ware.
I also have checked with Sue the daughter of David Jenkin to see if she has any knowledge of her Dad's connection to Wharetana Ware and she responded that she only knew what was in Val Monk's book. As this range was developed in the 1940's it may have been too early for her to remember, unlike the 3 Faces of Eve lampbase, which she recalls readily.
Re: Parker Pottery Bottle Lincoln Wines
Continuing on the HH Saga ....
I cannot get access to the digitized photos at Te Toi Uku of Harry Hargreaves writings, the reason being that they are Culturally Sensitive. They are working on this. .. .... ......
The Hargreaves family have since sent me a list of shape numbers and the names of each shape that they have compiled from Harry's writings which is a godsend.
There are a few differences to my Wharetana Shapes and the Hargreaves one, but these are minor differences. The Hargreaves list has two Lamp Base Shapes that are not included in the known shapes that I have found during research.
These are:
Papahou - Lamp Base (No.1 for my reference)(Wakahuia/Treasure Box)
Mask - (No 4)
(No2 is Shape 1043/2 Hei Tiki)
(No3 is Shape 1042/4 Atua Design)
There is also a Small Tray - Taiaha or Hane that doesn't have a number.
Also there is mention of 3 drawings, which I may never see.
I'm still working on this and an unexpected bottle ended up in my hands that lends it'self to this ware and needs considerable consideration to compare styles to what we already have. This bottle is in the Crown Lynn Modellers' drawings as a trivet type piece and in the Shapes Catalogue as a bottle that doesn't have a number associated with it.
Edits to add that there are several shapes on this bottle that are the same as the David Jenkin Flora and Fauna plaque, so I conclude that this bottle was designed by David Jenkin
I cannot get access to the digitized photos at Te Toi Uku of Harry Hargreaves writings, the reason being that they are Culturally Sensitive. They are working on this. .. .... ......
The Hargreaves family have since sent me a list of shape numbers and the names of each shape that they have compiled from Harry's writings which is a godsend.
There are a few differences to my Wharetana Shapes and the Hargreaves one, but these are minor differences. The Hargreaves list has two Lamp Base Shapes that are not included in the known shapes that I have found during research.
These are:
Papahou - Lamp Base (No.1 for my reference)(Wakahuia/Treasure Box)
Mask - (No 4)
(No2 is Shape 1043/2 Hei Tiki)
(No3 is Shape 1042/4 Atua Design)
There is also a Small Tray - Taiaha or Hane that doesn't have a number.
Also there is mention of 3 drawings, which I may never see.
I'm still working on this and an unexpected bottle ended up in my hands that lends it'self to this ware and needs considerable consideration to compare styles to what we already have. This bottle is in the Crown Lynn Modellers' drawings as a trivet type piece and in the Shapes Catalogue as a bottle that doesn't have a number associated with it.
Edits to add that there are several shapes on this bottle that are the same as the David Jenkin Flora and Fauna plaque, so I conclude that this bottle was designed by David Jenkin
Last edited by Ev on Fri 26 Jan - 14:01; edited 1 time in total
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A link to the ssecond Lincoln bottle
In my wanderings I found this record
Please let me know if it's already on the site somewhere.
https://ehive.com/collections/6051/objects/749728/pair-of-tangata-lincoln-wines-port-bottles
Please let me know if it's already on the site somewhere.
https://ehive.com/collections/6051/objects/749728/pair-of-tangata-lincoln-wines-port-bottles
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