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Dawn Pat.No. 19
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Marl474- Number of posts : 675
Location : Te Atatu Peninsula
Registration date : 2011-02-01
Re: Dawn Pat.No. 19
Will check the Database to confirm the number as Dawn is on there.
So tell me, is it a clear glaze over white clay with a gold band on the rim?
So tell me, is it a clear glaze over white clay with a gold band on the rim?
Re: Dawn Pat.No. 19
Yes exactly!
Marl474- Number of posts : 675
Location : Te Atatu Peninsula
Registration date : 2011-02-01
Re: Dawn Pat.No. 19
found this cup today and immediately thought of Dawn - except it has three fine gold lines as well as the the gold rim. The back stamp is different though, so could be another unknown...
Cat-a-lat- Number of posts : 1043
Location : Palmerston North
Registration date : 2012-02-15
Re: Dawn Pat.No. 19
I just found a Dawn porridge/cereal bowl in my cupboard, and it has the same Kelston Potteries Backstamp as the cup....
Cat-a-lat- Number of posts : 1043
Location : Palmerston North
Registration date : 2012-02-15
Re: Dawn Pat.No. 19
Interestingly today I came across a Beswick saucer that matches the cup above with the three gold lines and the gold rim. I initially thought I had found the cup's mate so was very surprised to see Beswick stamped on the bottom.
Cat-a-lat- Number of posts : 1043
Location : Palmerston North
Registration date : 2012-02-15
Re: Dawn Pat.No. 19
I've been meaning to check out the time frame for the Kelston Potteries backstamp... perhaps later
Crown Lynn copied nearly all of the English Potteries and the odd one from the Continent. It didn't matter then as we were a long way away and imports were restricted.
Crown Lynn copied nearly all of the English Potteries and the odd one from the Continent. It didn't matter then as we were a long way away and imports were restricted.
re Dawn pat no 19
Thought the extract below from the Kelston thread might help. The Kelston brand with a number of variations seems to have been quite popular and perhaps a good seller.
Kelston Ceramics/Potteries
Ev on Fri 6 Feb - 11:52
This brand name was mostly used on dinnerware from the 1960's to 1980's.
Kelston Ceramics/Potteries
Ev on Fri 6 Feb - 11:52
This brand name was mostly used on dinnerware from the 1960's to 1980's.
Jonno- Number of posts : 662
Location : Milford,Auckland
Registration date : 2011-05-13
Re: Dawn Pat.No. 19
Just added the backstamp to that thread Jonno, better late than never
It's very different to the backstamp on Cat's cup, which isn't in Val Monk or Gail Henry.
I have a couple of pieces with the same mark and they have been done in gold lustre.
There are many gold lustre marks, eg Ascot, Starline, Coronet, Crown Manor etc, etc and they were used in a similar time frame c1950 -c1960s.
So I'm sticking my neck out to suggest that is the era for the Kelston Potteries mark on Cat's cup .....
The Dawn mark corresponds with the Fashion Rose mark in Gail Henry which was used from the early 1960s+.
Hehee I found a couple of pics of old saucers with gold lines on them Cat ...
It's very different to the backstamp on Cat's cup, which isn't in Val Monk or Gail Henry.
I have a couple of pieces with the same mark and they have been done in gold lustre.
There are many gold lustre marks, eg Ascot, Starline, Coronet, Crown Manor etc, etc and they were used in a similar time frame c1950 -c1960s.
So I'm sticking my neck out to suggest that is the era for the Kelston Potteries mark on Cat's cup .....
The Dawn mark corresponds with the Fashion Rose mark in Gail Henry which was used from the early 1960s+.
Hehee I found a couple of pics of old saucers with gold lines on them Cat ...
Re: Dawn Pat.No. 19
I'd agree with you on the 50s to 60s timeframe on my cup - it has a fifties design feel about it in my opinion. I think the top saucer would be a match to my cup - the gold lines on the cup are 3mm apart and the bottom pic looks to be closer together than that.
(you should have seen me holding the cup against the monitor to compare lol)
(you should have seen me holding the cup against the monitor to compare lol)
Cat-a-lat- Number of posts : 1043
Location : Palmerston North
Registration date : 2012-02-15
Re: Dawn Pat.No. 19
Dawn is D190, so I guess that Marl's piece missed the 0. It is described as having a rolled gold edge and is made in both the coupe shapes and thin rimmed shapes. It includes all of the plates, bowl, jugs etc etc and the 750 cup and the 754 and the 805 saucer.
Re: Dawn Pat.No. 19
I see a set of four duos advertised as "Pattern no 19, Dawn" on tm.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Pottery-glass/Porcelain-pottery/Crown-Lynn/Cups-saucers/auction-949753787.htm
As it appears to be an early pattern I wonder if it started out as 19 and the 0 was added for consistency with other three digit pattern numbers later on.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Pottery-glass/Porcelain-pottery/Crown-Lynn/Cups-saucers/auction-949753787.htm
As it appears to be an early pattern I wonder if it started out as 19 and the 0 was added for consistency with other three digit pattern numbers later on.
Jeremy Ashford- Number of posts : 3193
Location : Whangarei, New Zealand
Registration date : 2010-09-11
Dawn 754 cups with saucers in a Crown Lynn box
I couldn't resist these. All in good condition, 43, dont really know what I will do with them. The Crown Lynn box with the W(h)anganui retailer on it sold me!
Kelston Potteries on the saucers and Pat. No. 19 Dawn on the cups.
Kelston Potteries on the saucers and Pat. No. 19 Dawn on the cups.
mike67- Number of posts : 392
Location : Wanganui
Registration date : 2014-02-22
Re: Dawn Pat.No. 19
Good idea but that won't be until I retire....quite a few years to go yet!!!! The local history of the box is quite interesting. The Gilbertson family still have Mitre 10 Mega in Whanganui and that box is labelled Gilbertson & Penderthy which was the original hardware store.
mike67- Number of posts : 392
Location : Wanganui
Registration date : 2014-02-22
Re: Dawn Pat.No. 19
Just to add to this topic from a 1962 Price List:
Three cups are mentioned: 754, 780 with 805 saucer
and 802 Cup with 744 saucer. We still don't have this saucer in the Gallery .....
Three cups are mentioned: 754, 780 with 805 saucer
and 802 Cup with 744 saucer. We still don't have this saucer in the Gallery .....
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