Fluted Pie Dish with vegetables and herbs pattern is Spice of Life d584

Can't see this design in gallery no backstamp but exactly the same dimensions as a Cook & Serve version that I have but in Pioneer Brown glaze and no decoration. As it is also the same weight that would suggest to me that it is from the Cook & Serve range.


Measures 214 x 45 mm Vegetables and herbs decoration.

I have the Pioneer d17400 range in an old catalogue.
It shows a Large Flan - 8637 but appears to have the fluting on the inside as well as the outside .... where as this one looks like it is only on the outside and smooth on the inside ....?

Hi Ev, this is definitely a Crown Lynn pattern, I have some pieces of it but none with a name, it is usually on an apollo base. The style of flan with a smooth edge inside is the same as the Bonne Cuisine one which I added to the gallery some time ago. cheers, marl

Thanks Marl ..... I will add it to the No Name Gallery

Yes I agree I have one of each hut only use the smooth inside as it is easier to get the Bacon & Egg Pie out without any difficulty.

My smooth inner is Cook & Serve the other is Ovenproof Cookware

Thanks for the name of the vegies decoration Marl

Sorry Jonno,Bonne Cuisine is the name of a different pattern, I don't know the name of the vege one, it is just the style of flan that is the same in both, cheers, marl.

Thanks Marl, got that I also notice that the fluted both side sample I have has a different backstamp that is not in the gallery. Here it is.



Have brightened up the photo to make it easier to read but looks just like a Pioneer piece at first glance.

Just want to note in this thread that gloworm suggests that this pattern is called Garden Vegetables.
That pattern name isn't on the Database, so we need some confirmation please if you ever see it listed with a backstamp please alert us to it.
Keep up the great work gloworm as it's most appreciated

Jonno, any chance of a photo of the fluted both sides pie dish please?

It looks very similar to Cottage Garden d920 as well, from the Avondale collection.

OK Ev ,
Have looked out both styles and will photograph and post later today or in weekend at least.

Here are the photos as promised of the two similar flan or Pie dishes that I have.



Fluting on outside only



This second dish has the fluting inside and out. both same size approx.
212mm Dia X 40mm deep.
Glaze is in the Pioneer brown. There are no other marks or numbers on either piece and the bases both look exactly the same except for the backstamp.

According to Monk (P.76-77) the Cook & Serve range was from 1963 and the Ovenproof Cookware from 1970 (P156).
I have a handpainted coffee can Pat No 457 which is also marked as Cook & Serve.

Thanks Jonno, I just went to put it into the Gallery as an 8637, as it looks the same as in the catalogue I have for Pioneer, but noticed that the fluted flan dishes all have the number of flutes to identify which is what number. I counted 32 flutes which makes your one 8636 - Medium Flan - first made in 1980.

Very interesting Ev, you are amazing with the breadth of information that you can put your finger on and the 1980 date is quite revealing.

I take that a 32 flute with the pattern number 8636 is just another CL thing not a typo error?.

Can you confirm which style we are calling 8636 The single fluted Cook & Serve or the double fluted Ovenproof Cookware as there is some discrepancy as far as dates
are concerned, and does the 'other' dish have another number?


You have already said that the Pioneer version is 8637 in an early post on this thread, sorry have just seen.

Hi Jonno, the double fluted flan with 32 flutes is the 8636.... it's in the Gallery.

The 8637 double fluted flan dish has 30 flutes .

I have no indication what the number for the single fluted flan dish is at this stage, but I will probably be able to work it out one day

Thanks Ev,
I sure you will, both of my examples have 32 flutes the plain inner version is theoretically the earlier version circa 1963 .Could it have beenbefore the use of the 8 series to denote ram ware?

Anything that was made before 1964 has three digits Jonno.
After 1964 they gave everything they made a new four digit number.
The 8 denotes Ram Press Ware.
80 then two numbers represent Ram Press Earthenware shapes.
86 then two numbers represent vitrified Ram Press Ware.
88 then two numbers represent Stoneware Ram Press shapes
I notice that they didn't start using these ram press ware numbers until 1969...

Getting back to the pattern name for this, an ebay listing caught my eye as it has this pattern and they named it Spice of Life after the Corning Ware and Corelle Ware that use the same design. So I checked out the Data Base and Wallah there it was ......
Spice of Life d584 So there you are and a Merry Xmas to you too

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/181970316561

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=corelle+ware+spice+of+life&biw=1093&bih=491&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi9lNLw7fLJAhXoHKYKHbQZDjQQ_AUIBygB

How very appropriate on Christmas Eve to find the Spice of Life.

You are a real gun at spotting these gems Ev.

Merry Christmas and all the best for 2016.
Jonno


"rendeer"?????

I believe this is 'Spice O' Life' pattern on Apollo?

Or does this just confuse this?



Also, the same pattern on Beehive Mixing Bowl.

I have a small casserole dish, also in this pattern (Will post photos if anyone wants). It has slightly sloping sides, no markings and four decals on the sides. Ribbed on the outside but plain inside...