No name coffee can 2 is Form Pat.No.832

This pattern is called Form, d382. I don't have a backstamp though. cheers, Marl

I'm having strange computer problems too Marl ....
I can't see a pic for this - is it just me?

Sorry I didn't send a pic. This is already in the gallery under no name coffee can- 2 on page 6, thought you might like to name it. Cheers, marl

Fantastic thanks Marl.
There are so many patterns without names - over 10% of the Gallery photos!
Every one that gets identified is a bonus and you have helped with many of them

I have three lovely shallow type cups with this pattern. Just wondering how common or scarce the pattern may be. Any ideas please ? (Just heading out so no photo sorry).

Also, the plate in the no name gallery....p.3, 2nd one in from the left - and on the line with the 'orange spotty dotty' cup on the end - is Earthstone Landscape I believe. The same, I think, as T/Me expired auction # 570622620.

Regards,

This is the only Form coffee can that I've ever seen ... Jeremy's one here -
http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/t1122-crown-lynn-cook-serve-coffee-cans?highlight=cans

Here is the post re the look alike Landscape from Marl -
http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/t1740-unknown-name-for-the-gallery-looks-like-a-landscape-prototype

Apologies. I'm well behind the 8 ball on the Landscape!!!

I just love the shape of these cups. Not sure what the saucers would look like but they would mix and match nicely with a colour glaze one as a temporary measure.

Feel free to use the photo for the gallery if you need to Ev.

That's the funky shape that keeps coming up at the moment.
The same shape as the whale tail Air NZ cups for starters ...
I need some time to confirm the shape ... someone gift me some time please
I found the cup handle shape in the CL Modellers notes from 31st October 1963 and it says
"Enlarge and thicken new handle for shallow cup."

Ah ha!
"This stunning red tango c&c set are for sale on T Me. The cup shape is unusual and I don't think it is in the gallery.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/pottery-glass/porcelain-pottery/crown-lynn/cups-saucers/auction-578143511.htm "

This is the cup shape for the red tango cups I queried. And they are on saucers too!

This auction shows a Form coffee can saucer ...
http://www.trademe.co.nz/pottery-glass/porcelain-pottery/crown-lynn/cups-saucers/auction-578942500.htm
It always rains Crown Lynn when you home in on something....

Amazing!!!!!

hazlette was wondering about pairings of Air New Zealand cups in Form pattern.

I have used my Cook and Serve to create a montage of pairings based on the colours contained within the pattern. My Form saucers came with three different can colours, white, lime, and Form. The remainder of the pairings below are made up using the colours within the pattern. Obviously lacking are black cup and green, and white, saucers: i have never seen any. The pairings were made using what I have so some duos are reversed, with coloured can and Form saucer.

The effect with an Air NZ cup shape will be different, but I think I can see lime green or black, or even brown saucers working.

Supposing the cups are vitrified, then I think the right saucer shape would be the 739. Good luck with finding those!

If the cups are earthenware they will be 3010s and I think a standard 805 coupe saucer, as for tulip cups, is the correct shape. Unlike black, lime is not too hard to find, so too brown, which looks a lot better as saucer than cup.

An old advert for Form ....

Ev, did you know what year this article was?


As with the Cook & Serve, I think having Form pattern on both cup and saucer is a bit much, but wouldn't  you want it anyway!

Do you know offhand what the mug shape is?

The photo is from the 1965/66 folder and the cup shape is 3010 first made in March 1964. Going by this picture it appears that whole dinner sets were made in the Form pattern.

The MUG shape Ev, not the cup.

I believe it is number 8 on "Rattling Those Cups", and I understand the shape is 844 "E/W kiddies mug". I just lost one at auction which was sold as: "Crown Lynn Roydon Cat tiny tots cup". I believe there is another image in one of those schematic pictures of cup shapes where it is described as a "beaker" (no, not the 728).

Links:

http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/t4584-rattling-those-cups

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Pottery-glass/auction-730858237.htm

Other shapes of interest:
728 beaker E/W
750 Minton cup E/W
3801 classic coffee cup 1981

Oops sorry about that. I wouldn't call that mug a kiddies one as it is a decent size and yes it is described as a beaker in one of the illustrations.

Here are some Fleurette mugs in this shape ..
http://www.trademe.co.nz/pottery-glass/porcelain-pottery/crown-lynn/cups-saucers/auction-732550661.htm

Yes, those Fleurette are tempting me.

I see you agree on shape but not that shape number.

It was the description as "Roydon tiny tots" in the other auction that led me in the direction of 844.

No number for that shape yet huh!
I think it must be a three digit from the Roydon.

Do you think the mug in this auction is the same shape?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Pottery-glass/auction-733523518.htm

No I don't think that is the same shape in that auction.  
It looks like pic 24 in Rattling Cups montage, which I would like to think is a 750 shape, but can't be sure.

My Beaker -
http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/t3193-flared-beaker

Yeah, the handle is at the right height for the 750/Minton Cup, rather than the beaker, but in the photo the base looks more squared off like the beaker than rounded like the cup. Seller says "cup" and it sits happily on the (Soljan) saucer.

I've been spending too much lately: I'll walk away from that one!

I think both shapes share the ridged handle. Looks like that on my cup.

BTW, the cup dimensions are 8.5 W x 7.8 H, exactly opposite those of the beaker.

Thanks for that.

Trademe seller sweetas631 has let us use this photos for the gallery:



Here's what they are selling:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Pottery-glass/Porcelain-pottery/Crown-Lynn/Plates-platters/auction-778171114.htm

Thanks "E".

Ev, once you've seen this you can add it to the other Form topic if you like.

Thanks Jeremy, I checked the other Form topic when I saw these listed and we have two numbers ???  Are the colourings different?
http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/t2014-no-name-coffee-can-2-is-form-d382?highlight=form
I'm also wondering if the numbers got mixed up when typing them in?
My database only has Form 832.

There may be more than one pattern.

On my 782 cans the staples alternate up/down singly around the can.
On everything else the staples alternate in either singles or pairs.
The order of colours does not follow any simple pattern and on the can the colours vary in number:
Black 4
Green 4
Mustard 3
Brown 2
I checked three saucers to find the arrangement of staples differs on all three.
This makes each saucer (plate, etc?) potentially unique!
(The rest of the cans are stowed atm so can't check for same on them.)
I'm pretty sure it's a transfer pattern, not brushed, not stamped.

The four colours used are the same four in each piece I have seen.

Later ...
I now see that on all items black and brown staples point inwards or downwards, while green and mustard do the opposite.
The mustard in the ad looks darker.