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Need help with identification. 715 - 1645 - 1656
I have this lovely set of pottery, but only the two small jugs have New Zealand imprinted on the bottom edge. The larger jug is 8cm tall and has the numbers 715 01 on the bottom, the smaller jug is 5½cm tall with the numbers 715 00.
The oval dish is 21cm x 14cm wide and 4cm high, with the numbers .1656. on the bottom. Both little pots with lids are 6½cm tall and 12cm in diameter. Both have the numbers .1645. on the bottom.
All the numbers are covered in the same jungle-green glace as the dishes, and only the small jugs have white glace on the inside.
Could anyone tell me who the maker of this set is and perhaps how old it is?
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Thank you kindly for your help. Budgie - Australia
The oval dish is 21cm x 14cm wide and 4cm high, with the numbers .1656. on the bottom. Both little pots with lids are 6½cm tall and 12cm in diameter. Both have the numbers .1645. on the bottom.
All the numbers are covered in the same jungle-green glace as the dishes, and only the small jugs have white glace on the inside.
Could anyone tell me who the maker of this set is and perhaps how old it is?
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Thank you kindly for your help. Budgie - Australia
Budgie- Number of posts : 5
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Re: Need help with identification. 715 - 1645 - 1656
Those numbers relate to Crown Lynn Budgie
If I get some time tomorrow I will try to find out some details as to when they were made .....
If I get some time tomorrow I will try to find out some details as to when they were made .....
Re: Need help with identification. 715 - 1645 - 1656
Thank you, Ev.
I very much apreciate the help. It is an unusual set. The pots with the lids would only hold a portion for one person. I just wonder what they were meant for?
Budgie
I very much apreciate the help. It is an unusual set. The pots with the lids would only hold a portion for one person. I just wonder what they were meant for?
Budgie
Budgie- Number of posts : 5
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Re: Need help with identification. 715 - 1645 - 1656
I just stumbled across an auction on TradeMe with the same individual lidded ramekin as yours Budgie :
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The numbers don't look like Crown Lynn numbers - they are way too big!
So I will retract my first thoughts
The 715 jugs are Crown Lynn shapes.
Those ramekins are like the Cook & Serve range that Crown Lynn made, though I don't think I've seen any in the colours that you have posted.
So it's back to square one sorry!
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The numbers don't look like Crown Lynn numbers - they are way too big!
So I will retract my first thoughts
The 715 jugs are Crown Lynn shapes.
Those ramekins are like the Cook & Serve range that Crown Lynn made, though I don't think I've seen any in the colours that you have posted.
So it's back to square one sorry!
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Gosh your ramekins look like these don't they
Gosh your ramekins look like these don't they
Re: Need help with identification. 715 - 1645 - 1656
Hi, Ev, sorry I was away for a couple of days, but what a surprise to see the ones you have found. I don't have any knowledge of NZ potteries, so reading and learning is on my agenda now.
Interesting that the numbers on the cook & serve pots are unknown and not listed anywhere. I hope we find the story behind it.
Thank you for the information.
Cheers, Budgie
Interesting that the numbers on the cook & serve pots are unknown and not listed anywhere. I hope we find the story behind it.
Thank you for the information.
Cheers, Budgie
Budgie- Number of posts : 5
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Re: Need help with identification. 715 - 1645 - 1656
I just had a look in my museum records and the 1645 is an "individual 12oz casserole" from September 1969 and the lid and knob a 1646 - so yes to Crown Lynn. The numbers were later changed to 5620 and were made at the Titian factory.
The 1656 is a "Baker" 8 3/4" long made at the same time in the Titian factory.
The 1656 is a "Baker" 8 3/4" long made at the same time in the Titian factory.
HeatherT- Number of posts : 873
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Re: Need help with identification. 715 - 1645 - 1656
Thank you so very much, Heather T and Ev.
Sorry I have not been around for a while. Have been out of action with eye problems.
It is amazing how great the condition of those items is, considering their age. I love getting details and the history of things I find. Tomorrow I'm going to a garage sale at a house of an Ex - Newzealander. Will keep my eyes open for Crown Lyn ware.
Hopefully I'll have some more pictures to share.
Budgie
Sorry I have not been around for a while. Have been out of action with eye problems.
It is amazing how great the condition of those items is, considering their age. I love getting details and the history of things I find. Tomorrow I'm going to a garage sale at a house of an Ex - Newzealander. Will keep my eyes open for Crown Lyn ware.
Hopefully I'll have some more pictures to share.
Budgie
Budgie- Number of posts : 5
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Re: Need help with identification. 715 - 1645 - 1656
Can anyone help with this pattern??? Bottom is stamped 'Colour Glaze' and milk jug has the numbers 6013, with a faint E and R scratched into the surface. Coffee pot has the numbers 1034 with light X scratched in. would love to know the pattern name.. thanks [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Hi tttrish
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Re: Need help with identification. 715 - 1645 - 1656
Thanks for bringing all of the 1645 info back Jeremy as I found one of these lidded little casseroles recently and couldn't for the life of me find these old topics and today I can find three
My one has a shiny bluey-green glaze on it that looks black when I photograph it. Not at all like my Mark Cleverly coffee pot which was glazed at Luke Adams in the matt Lucow glaze. An article in the Crown Lynn ceramics magazine called it Aquamarine, but I wouldn't describe it at all that way as it is too dark.
My one has a shiny bluey-green glaze on it that looks black when I photograph it. Not at all like my Mark Cleverly coffee pot which was glazed at Luke Adams in the matt Lucow glaze. An article in the Crown Lynn ceramics magazine called it Aquamarine, but I wouldn't describe it at all that way as it is too dark.
Aquamarine
Ev, I agree totally about the difference in glaze texture. Mine are shiny too, and I can see that Jonno's casserole is matt or satin, yet Budgie's appears very shiny.
Recognising the similarity in colour, and the name "Aquamarine" used more than once check out how my Cleverley set looked in the trademe ad.
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As I have said elsewhere, I have not been able to reproduce this lighting, but the name Aquamarine is not inappropriate for the colour, as it appears here.
The Cook & Serve 1619 hot water pot, below, is pretty much the same colour as my Cleverley set, above, and like it, is not a single flat colour, but variations of, although that is not apparent in this photo.
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Until this topic the similarity, or sameness, of the colours on the two items had not even occurred to me, although I had been aware from the time I bought the little pot that that the glaze was different from the usual allover evenness of all the other Cook & Serve (Colour Glaze?) coloured glazes.
BTW, I may not have noticed before that the numbers on both my water pots are .1619. rather than just 1619 with no dots.
Recognising the similarity in colour, and the name "Aquamarine" used more than once check out how my Cleverley set looked in the trademe ad.
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As I have said elsewhere, I have not been able to reproduce this lighting, but the name Aquamarine is not inappropriate for the colour, as it appears here.
The Cook & Serve 1619 hot water pot, below, is pretty much the same colour as my Cleverley set, above, and like it, is not a single flat colour, but variations of, although that is not apparent in this photo.
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Until this topic the similarity, or sameness, of the colours on the two items had not even occurred to me, although I had been aware from the time I bought the little pot that that the glaze was different from the usual allover evenness of all the other Cook & Serve (Colour Glaze?) coloured glazes.
BTW, I may not have noticed before that the numbers on both my water pots are .1619. rather than just 1619 with no dots.
Jeremy Ashford- Number of posts : 3193
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