Crown Lynn Shapes 1 - 881 What's missing?

Hi there, new to all this...I have 431r. Will need to take clear photo for your website. Please advise who/how to upload. Also have mystery piece marked BNB 305, looks like Crown Lynn maybe? Can't any info on this shape. Cheers!

Oh Wow the 431r is the Three Faces of Eve isn't it newbie?
We would love to put a pic of that into the Crown Lynn Shapes Gallery !!
We have a topic in Members Information about how to load photos.
Though as it seems to be a huge mountain to climb for newcomers -
You can alternatively send photos to newzealandpottery@gmail.com
and I will load and credit you with any photos you send if you like.
Cheers Ev

It certainly is, my beloved lamp I will e-mail you some pixs tomorrow. Cheers!

Here we are again Tony..... some new pics for the Crown Lynn Shapes Gallery

570 - replaces Museum pic - thanks to Thelma

572 - replaces Museum pic - thanks to Thelma

760 - replaces Museum pic - many thanks Ev

767 - new shape - thanks to mrnarna

770 - replaces Museum pic - thanks to mrnarna

Thanks for updating the list Tony -
I can see the Photos we do have is growing steadily
I'm starting another list now .... no hurry..

468 - New Shape - thanks to Marl474

771-5 New Shape - Ev's pic

805 - Photo replaces Museum pic - Ev's pic

731 - New Shape - thanks to mrnarna

732 - New Shape - thanks to HeatherT

311 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to ynotbrich

611 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to ynotbrich

721 - New shape - thanks to ynotbrich

123-8 - New shape - thanks to ynotbrich

The Crown Lynn Shapes Gallery is slowly growing, thanks to our dedicated members
As there is no complete list of shapes we have to rely of members to find those pieces that are numbered in the Crown Lynn way .... or use other avenues to nut them out eg: the Auckland Museum Crown Lynn records have turned up quite a few. Will have to make more visits until that avenue is exhausted.
Keep those shapes coming in everyone as it helps us all and that's what this site is really all about - people helping other people .... sharing and caring

Thanks for updating the list Tony
Another list under way already

312 - Photo replaces Museum pic .... thanks to Ev

313 - Photo replaces Museum pic .... thanks to Ev

736 - New Shape - thanks to narna

356 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to nicrick from TradeMe

322 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to mumof1

103 - Photo replaces sketch - thanks to DaSiEm

197 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to Manos

651 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to mumof1 and Richmond Antiques

501 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to squeak43 from Trademe

609 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to a Private Collector

Bumps for Tony to see the post above .....
Will start another list now

Not sure if Tony saw the above post .... but here we go again

660 -photo replaces Museum pic ... thanks to witchione

420 - photo replaces Museum pic ... thanks to haselnuss

761 - photo replaces Museum pic .... thanks to Jonno

781 - new shape .... photo thanks to narna

623 - photo replaces Museum drawing .. thanks to hon-john

514 - new shape ... photo from Ev

310 - Photo replaces Museum pic ... thanks to sid

146 - New Shape .... thanks to sid

147 - New Shape .... thanks to sid

401 - New Shape ... thanks to sid

09 - photo replaces Sparrow pic .. thanks to Bendoy

110 - photo replaces sketch ... thanks to Bendoy

111 - Photo replaces sketch .. thanks to Bendoy

512 - Photo replaces Museum pic .. thanks to Bendoy

552 - Photo replaces Museum pic .. thanks to Bendoy

361 - Photo replaces Museum pic .. thanks to mumof1

777 - Photo replaces Museum pic .. thanks to Manos

Bumps for Tony ....
Almost a year since the missing shapes have been updated and we have ....
6 New Shapes and 21 photos that have replaced the Museum pics to add

Another for you arrived today from mumof1

567 - photo replaces Museum pic thanks to sunshine

Many thanks Tony
It is great to see that progress is continuing to be made
Starting another list now and will just continue to add to it when new pics arrive.

628 - photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to mumof1

143 - New shape - thanks to sid

88 - New shape - provided by Ev

601 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to aggie1968

668 - Photo replaces sketch - thanks to mumof1

392 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to mumof1

616 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to the generosity of nickgane

120 - Photo replaces Museum pic - many thanks to mumof1

109 - New shape - thanks to mumof1

787 - Photo replaces Museum pic - many thanks to Manos

499 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to mumof1

854 - New shape - thanks to mrnarna :)I found the sauceboat saucer number

712 - New shape - thanks to TonyK

741/10 - New Shape thanks to Marl474

868 - New shape - thanks to Marl474

873 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Marl

874 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Marl

875 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Marl

869 - New Shape - thanks to Marl

870 - New Shape - thanks to Marl

733 - New Shape - thanks to mrnarna

800 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to mrnarna

551 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Bendoy

521 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Lets Go Retro

16 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to sid

78 - New Shape - many thanks to sid

449 - New Shape - Thanks to Ev

425 - Photo replaces Museum drawing - thanks to Kat & Co

428 - Photo replaces Museum drawing - thanks to sueellen [this was in as 423, but has been corrected with Kat & Co's photo.]

602 - Photo replaces Museum drawing - thanks to mumof1

473 - New Shape - Thanks to Kat & Co

606 - Photo replaces sketch - thanks to connections 126

728 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to Ev

637 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to mumof1

735 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to Ev ....

Fantastic progress going on in the Crown Lynn Shapes Gallery since last March !!
13 New Shapes have been added and
22 shapes have been replaced with photos
thanks to all of our wonderful pottery hunters and gatherers
Still a long way to go, but it's fun and gives a purpose to collecting in my opinion
Another list will be started now Tony, as I ran out of page with the previous list ......

Excellent work Ev. I've updated the What's missing? list.

Starting another list for you Tony and what a way to start out .....

65 - photo replaces sketch - grateful thanks to foveaux

634 - photo replaces Museum pic - many thanks to sunny

656 - photo replaces sketch - thanks to sunshine

657 - photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to sunny

472 - New Shape - many thanks to Bendoy

601 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to de_la_cours

321 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to de_la_cours

648 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to sunny

652 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to sunshine

362 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to mumof1

319 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to mumof 1

418 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to haselnuss

579 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to haselnuss :D

355 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to haselnuss

363 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to haselnuss

422 - NEW SHAPE - many thanks to haselnuss

852 - NEW SHAPE - many thanks to haselnuss

580 - NEW SHAPE - thanks to Kat & Co  

778 - New Shape - thanks to sunshine

518 - Photo replaces Museum pic - many thanks to sid

766 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks Ev

739 - New Shape - Photo courtesy of Cat-a-lat

456 - Photo replaces sketch - thanks to sunshine

768 - Photo replaces Museum pic ...... thanks to Ev YAY!

816 - NEW SHAPE - many thanks to Heather for the pic

06 - Photo replaces Museum pic ..... thanks to mumof1

527 - Photo replaces Museum pic..... thank you Ev

569 - Photo replaces sketch .... thanks to Sunshine

828 - Photo replaces sketch ..... thanks to sunny

With a total of 31 photos added - 24 photos replaced and 7 new shapes its time to start again!  Brilliant stuff and many thanks to everyone who contributed

Here we go again and a new shape to start things off is awesome!

471 - NEW SHAPE - many thanks to mumof1

560 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to dollcrown

561 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to dollcrown

562 -  NEW SHAPE many thanks to dollcrown

415 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks heaps to Kat & Co

84 - photo  replaces museum pic - many thanks to sunny

847 - NEW SHAPE it's a butter pat supplied by Ev

876 - NEW SHAPE lid to 868 Ramekin supplied by Ev

639 - Photo replaces Museum pic - many thanks to sunny

638 - Photo replaces Museum pic - many thanks to sunshine

520 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to vanee from Trademe

789 & 708 Lid - NEW SHAPES thanks to Jeremy Ashford

485 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to Kat & Co

839 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to Sue Carmount and Ev

845-8 NEW SHAPE thanks to Kat & Co and Jim

848/1 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to Kat & Co

783 - NEW SHAPE - thanks to photo from TonyK

863 - [NEW SHAPE] - courtesy of hendelglass

866 - NEW SHAPE - Many thanks to Ev

Ok we are ready to start another list for the New Year.
Well done and many thanks to everyone who contributed to our Shapes Galleries during the last 6 months.
10 NEW SHAPES were found and 10 MUSEUM PICS were replaced
Awesome! Fantastic! Keep up the good work!

700 - New Shape Many thanks to Kat & Co

417 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Kat & Co and Hendelglass

127/8 - New Shape thanks to hon-john.  An oversight!

581 - NEW SHAPE thanks to mumof1

497 - NEW SHAPE thanks so much to mumof1

747 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Kat & Co

183 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Jeremy

184 - NEW SHAPE thanks to Jeremy .....

772 NEW SHAPE thanks again to Jeremy

250 & 251 NEW SHAPES  thanks to haselnuss

744 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Jeremy

734 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Jeremy

774 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Jeremy

773 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Jeremy

844 - New Shape thanks to Jeremy Ashford

Starting another list as 6 months have flown by again!!
We have added another 9 New Shapes and 7 Museum photos have been replaced during this time.  Well done everybody it's forever onwards and upwards
Fantastic effort !!

583 NEW SHAPE thanks to haselnuss

624 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to haselnuss

25 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Ev

650 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to mumof1

629 - NEW SHAPE thanks to mountainman and mumof1

563 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Manos

142 - NEW SHAPE Thanks to Ev

829 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to haselness

427 - NEW SHAPE Thanks to Kat & Co

860 - NEW SHAPE Thanks to Ev and Janpots

859 - NEW SHAPE Thanks to Ev

808 - NEW SHAPE Thanks to sid

780 - NEW SHAPE Thanks to Ev

702 - NEW SHAPE thanks to Bendoy

Here we are going for another spin around the sun for 2015 !!
Starting a new list for the New Year and during the last six months we have added
9 NEW SHAPES and 5 MUSEUM PHOTOS WERE REPLACED
Keep up the great work everyone as there are still many shapes for the Crown Lynn 01 to 881 Gallery to be found

479 - Photo from Ev replaces Museum pic

493 - NEW SHAPE supplied by Ev

70 - NEW SHAPE  thanks to haselnuss

752 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to haselnuss

58 - NEW SHAPE many thanks to mike67

05 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Zana

545 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to haselnuss

511 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to 8omnia8

821 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Ev

822 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks Ev

674 - Photo replaces Museum pic Thanks again Ev

492 - Photo replaces Museum pic Thanks to sunshine

531 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to haselnuss

778 - NEW SHAPE Thanks to the Portage Museum and Ev

802 - Photo has replaced incorrect Museum pic thanks to Portage Museum

193 - NEW SHAPE monkey has now been added thanks to a private collector.

Another very productive 6 months of finding new shapes and replacing Museum pics for the 01 to 881 Gallery!  5 NEW SHAPES were added and 11 MUSEUM PICS were replaced with real photos from members, which is an amazing effort.  Keep it up guys as we keep making excellent progress with this endeavour thank you everyone!

737 - NEW SHAPE thanks to Heather and the Auckland Museum

733 - NEW SHAPE replaces the incorrect shape that we had.

760 - NEW SHAPE thanks to the Portage info and supplied by Ev

732 and 776 Sugar Basins and the 728 Beaker now have shape numbers that have been reused, so there are two different shapes for these numbers!

790 - NEW SHAPE thanks to Janice

804 - Photo replaces Museum pic Whoooop whoop !!

716 - Photo replaces Museum pic [thanks to Lindsay155]

163 - NEW SHAPE thanks to Lindsay155

726 - NEW SHAPE thanks to the Crown Museum for letting me find it .. Ev

452 - NEW SHAPE broken, but glued together again

734 - NEW SHAPE thanks to Jim and Jeremy and Kat and Val

Congratulations to all.

Ev, for me one of the interesting results from this years new shape number finds is the identification of the new shape 728 beaker resulting from your research at Portage. You have not included it in the list above.

Duplicated numbers
Along with the other numbers for which more than one shape exists, 736, 738, 431, 432, it helps in informing us how numbering was used, and reused, on an ongoing basis. For these four the number for an obsolete shape was reused for a completely different shape. In identifying those four it was helpful, albeit confusing that both sets of numbers were recorded on the pieces themselves (or in modellers' books).

Unnumbered pieces as number duplicates
Where there are no numbers on pieces it is obviously more difficult and hopefully you will find some more answers at Portage. As well as the obvious Tobies, and Coronation and Empire Games mugs, we may find that the butter pat with the same edge as the (Carpay) 735 tray also fits into that 730s grouping.

The 782 story
The 728 story differs in that the 1961 beaker is a revised shape, an example of where one obsolete item is replaced with another which fulfils the same description and purpose. The duplication of the number 728 also serves to remind us that even the shapes that retained the same numbers (eg 805, 781) underwent constant redesign and we will find examples with varying measurements that are nevertheless still the same shape.

778 and 782 electric jugs
The 778 electric jug is an interesting one. Nice to see it finally hit the gallery. It was recorded in the modellers book with a 1961 date, yet a similar shape existed in Ambrico days, so one is led to wonder whether the earlier kettles are also the same number. The early 1960s (re)numberings suggest another example of a number where the number for an obsolete shape was reissued. This one is significant to me as I came to the site as a collector of 782 coffee cans. Anne's electric kettle 782 is clearly a Crown Lynn shape and a Crown Lynn numbering, but because the number 782 has a totally different shape associated with it there has been some doubt. I think we could safely now add it to the gallery with the understanding that while the 778 kettle was redesigned in the early 1960s the 782 kettle was finally dropped from the lineup as an obsolete item and the number given to the coffee can.
Anne's 782 kettle: https://www.newzealandpottery.net/t3275p15-crown-lynn-russell-hobbs-coffee-perk-electric-jugs#11662

1950s shapes still mostly Ambrico
Val recorded comments from Tom Clark disparaging the production of the 1950s, yet those years gave us exciting new product lines: Wharetana, hand-potted, and hand decorated (Steenstra). Until now I have had difficulty with Clark's comment but I am beginning to understand: a huge number of Crown Lynn's shapes came into being before Crown Lynn itself, as Ambrico wares, and the designs prevailed with minor changes until the early 1960s when everything underwent a big revision, and brand new tableware shapes emerged, one outcome of which was the adoption of the new four digit numbering system.

Other ponderings:
Is the Ambrico shaving mug also a 714, another example of a shape update?

Another 6 months have run away and we have found a staggering 8 New Shapes and 2 Museum Pics have been replaced as well as a few reused pesky numbers have been sorted.  Many thanks to the Portage Ceramic Museum for giving us new information and hopefully more will turn up from their records too.  It does take time and patience to get to the bottom of some of these shapes especially in the flatware areas.  Thanks for all of the help with these everyone!
Starting a new list.

719 - NEW SHAPE Thanks to Ev

772 - NEW SHAPE thanks to Jeremy

818 - NEW SHAPE Thanks to Ev ....

324 - NEW SHAPE thanks to the Portage Museum and Ev

325 - NEW SHAPE thanks to the Portage Museum and Ev

440 - NEW SHAPE  thanks Ev

625 - Photo replaces sketch thanks to shrivle

416 - Photo replaces Museum drawing thanks to Kat & Jeremy

744 - NEW SHAPE thanks to the Portage Museum and Ev

450 - Photo replaces Museum pic - Many thanks to Mumof1

446 - NEW SHAPE thanks to Jim  24.6.2017

864 - NEW SHAPE thanks to Ev

642 - Photo replaces Museum pic - many thanks to Peter Crowe

191 - NEW SHAPE - Sea Lion - Photo thanks to HeatherT

447 - NEW SHAPE thanks to Jeremy

742 - NEW SHAPE thanks to Ev

865 - NEW SHAPE thanks to Ev

802 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Janice

412 - NEW SHAPE thanks to haselnuss

445 - NEW SHAPE thanks to Simon

It's 2 years since this list has been bumped and how fantastic to see that we have 15 NEW SHAPES and 5 Museum pics replaced in the 1 to 881 Gallery  Well Done, Bravo to everyone concerned.  
There are still many shapes to find and lots to work out, so it will be an ongoing project.  Thank you.