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Blue Garland Pat.No.416 by Flair - also Fantasy d136 and Azure d434
Flair is another brand name that was used by Crown Lynn.
I can see a pretty plain blue mug sitting on this delightful saucer.
and the backstamp..
I can see a pretty plain blue mug sitting on this delightful saucer.
and the backstamp..
Last edited by Ev on Sun 6 Aug - 14:37; edited 2 times in total
Blue Garland by another name
Have just joined the site and have noticed that a pattern familiar me now has another name.
I have in my collection 2 versions of the same pattern.
1. FANTASY in blue back stamp Pat No 136 CL/Gib Patterson Super Vitrified ware, I have a side plate and an entree plate.
2. AZURE PINK in Pink, d372 Made in New Zealand dishwasher safe, I have two side plates
So pat.no. 416/136/ & d372 are all from the same transfer or design, they could have been printed onto the plates
Have a Pic but will try to send another way still learning this site.
Jonno
I have in my collection 2 versions of the same pattern.
1. FANTASY in blue back stamp Pat No 136 CL/Gib Patterson Super Vitrified ware, I have a side plate and an entree plate.
2. AZURE PINK in Pink, d372 Made in New Zealand dishwasher safe, I have two side plates
So pat.no. 416/136/ & d372 are all from the same transfer or design, they could have been printed onto the plates
Have a Pic but will try to send another way still learning this site.
Jonno
Jonno- Number of posts : 662
Location : Milford,Auckland
Registration date : 2011-05-13
Re: Blue Garland Pat.No.416 by Flair - also Fantasy d136 and Azure d434
Here is the photo that Jonno sent in of his Fantasy Pat.No.136
We keep coming across patterns that look exactly the same, but have different names Jonno.
Thanks for alerting us to this one.
Marl474 has already put the pattern Fantasy Blue d136 on here, but as it has a white border it looked quite different to your one.
We keep coming across patterns that look exactly the same, but have different names Jonno.
Thanks for alerting us to this one.
Marl474 has already put the pattern Fantasy Blue d136 on here, but as it has a white border it looked quite different to your one.
Thanks Ev
Thanks for your reply and for posting my Fantasy image.
Have spent a bit of time sorting and getting my photo files up to date, will try to post some pics myself a bit later.
Jonno
Have spent a bit of time sorting and getting my photo files up to date, will try to post some pics myself a bit later.
Jonno
Jonno- Number of posts : 662
Location : Milford,Auckland
Registration date : 2011-05-13
Re: Blue Garland Pat.No.416 by Flair - also Fantasy d136 and Azure d434
The Blue Garland/Fantasy/Azure mystery still hasn't been solved, but I've found that Blue Garland was first released in 1964.
Re: Blue Garland Pat.No.416 by Flair - also Fantasy d136 and Azure d434
Jonno do you still have a pic of Azure Pink on your computer, as we don't have it in the Gallery and it isn't a common pattern ...? Is it on an Apollo shape?
I think my head sorted out the mystery last night .... as I saw in my minds eye Fantasy on vitrified ware .... will have to get Marl to confirm this.
Blue Garland is on the shallow shaped ware ...
and Azure Pink must be the pink version ....?
There is just the white rim and the white in the middle of the saucer to work out
I think my head sorted out the mystery last night .... as I saw in my minds eye Fantasy on vitrified ware .... will have to get Marl to confirm this.
Blue Garland is on the shallow shaped ware ...
and Azure Pink must be the pink version ....?
There is just the white rim and the white in the middle of the saucer to work out
Blue Garland by Flair
I have just bought a dinner plate in this design. Where can find out more about it? thanks
starling4- Number of posts : 8
Registration date : 2013-04-25
Re: Blue Garland Pat.No.416 by Flair - also Fantasy d136 and Azure d434
Blue Garland was made by Crown Lynn Potteries NZ.
It was first made in 1964 and is still popular today.
What else would you like to find out starling?
It was first made in 1964 and is still popular today.
What else would you like to find out starling?
Blue Garland by Flair
Thanks. I'd like to know what years the Flair name was being used and for how many years they were making Blue Garland?
starling4- Number of posts : 8
Registration date : 2013-04-25
Re: Blue Garland Pat.No.416 by Flair - also Fantasy d136 and Azure d434
According to Valerie Monk's Crown Lynn A New Zealand Icon Blue Garland by Flair was made in the late 1950's and 1960's. Which only partly agrees with my findings. It would take a while to check out how long it was made, as I only have limited resources at my disposal.
Crown Lynn also used the Flair Art Pottery backstamp on their vases during the 1960's.
Crown Lynn also used the Flair Art Pottery backstamp on their vases during the 1960's.
Blue Garland by Flair
Thanks! I haven't really begun collecting it yet but I thought as a first rule, I would just collect what I liked and I really like it. Maybe as I am collecting it, I will learn more about it.
starling4- Number of posts : 8
Registration date : 2013-04-25
Re: Blue Garland Pat.No.416 by Flair - also Fantasy d136 and Azure d434
The same pattern in vitrified ware is called Fantasy. Vitrified ware was made for the hospitality industry and is much stronger than the Blue Garland white earthenware.
re Blue Garland Pat No 416 by Flair
Ev on Thu 18 Oct - 8:12
Jonno do you still have a pic of Azure Pink on your computer, as we don't have it in the Gallery and it isn't a common pattern ...? Is it on an Apollo shape?
Just Spotted this request Ev here is the best I can do sorry but this image is from an early sequence on my files that was corrupted and can only see thumbnails
As you can see it a side plate and I am pretty sure was super vitrified ware.
I suspect the original request was Oct 2012?
Jonno do you still have a pic of Azure Pink on your computer, as we don't have it in the Gallery and it isn't a common pattern ...? Is it on an Apollo shape?
Just Spotted this request Ev here is the best I can do sorry but this image is from an early sequence on my files that was corrupted and can only see thumbnails
As you can see it a side plate and I am pretty sure was super vitrified ware.
I suspect the original request was Oct 2012?
Last edited by Jonno on Sun 28 Apr - 17:08; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Post Photo)
Jonno- Number of posts : 662
Location : Milford,Auckland
Registration date : 2011-05-13
Re: Blue Garland Pat.No.416 by Flair - also Fantasy d136 and Azure d434
There are a lot of four digit numbers for Fantasy d136 in the Patterns Book, so if you have any of these please post them. I've added Jonno's 4612 side plate to the Gallery and would like to add the entrée plate that you have Jonno please.
The Patterns Book shows an all over pattern for Fantasy d136 on shallow shaped vitrified coupe ware and I am wondering if Fantasy Blue d136 is the version with the white rim that Marl sent to us?
The Patterns Book shows an all over pattern for Fantasy d136 on shallow shaped vitrified coupe ware and I am wondering if Fantasy Blue d136 is the version with the white rim that Marl sent to us?
Re: Blue Garland Pat.No.416 by Flair - also Fantasy d136
Sorry Ev, both the Blue plates in this design were sold in August 2012 and the photos I have of them are only available in small thumbnail form and are corrupted so that I am unable to email, same as the pink version that I tried to send to you some time ago.
The two plates that I sold were a side plate 165mm dia Fantasy Pat No 136 CL/Gibson & Paterson, SVW, and the other was 183mm Dia Crown Lynn SVW 78. Both exactly the same smooth shape style not Apollo. I presume the 4612 you refer to is a typo?
Hope this is of some help? In the throes of packing and shifting sorry for delay.
The two plates that I sold were a side plate 165mm dia Fantasy Pat No 136 CL/Gibson & Paterson, SVW, and the other was 183mm Dia Crown Lynn SVW 78. Both exactly the same smooth shape style not Apollo. I presume the 4612 you refer to is a typo?
Hope this is of some help? In the throes of packing and shifting sorry for delay.
Jonno- Number of posts : 662
Location : Milford,Auckland
Registration date : 2011-05-13
Re: Blue Garland Pat.No.416 by Flair - also Fantasy d136 and Azure d434
It's not a typo jonno, that is the four digit number for a vitrified ware side plate
Jonno- Number of posts : 662
Location : Milford,Auckland
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Another Fantasy Blue
From Jim's a Darker Blue saucer on right with supervitrified Fantasy left.
Kat & Co.- Number of posts : 2321
Location : Whangarei
Registration date : 2012-12-03
Re: Blue Garland Pat.No.416 by Flair - also Fantasy d136 and Azure d434
I noticed that there is one more pattern that looks like this in the patterns book
I will check it out later.
I will check it out later.
Re: Blue Garland Pat.No.416 by Flair - also Fantasy d136 and Azure d434
Ok so the other one in the Patterns Book like Fantasy is on Apollo ware and is
Westbury d179. Sorry that is no help ......
Westbury d179. Sorry that is no help ......
Re: Blue Garland Pat.No.416 by Flair - also Fantasy d136 and Azure d434
No worris no doubt a name will pop up one day..
Kat & Co.- Number of posts : 2321
Location : Whangarei
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Re: Blue Garland Pat.No.416 by Flair - also Fantasy d136 and Azure d434
Not wanting to confuse things here, but I have 3 plates that look just like Marls one in dark blue, all backstamped genuine ironstone, all have the white band, BUT, feel like super vitrified as they are quite thick! Have added a photo of top and bottom. As you can see, they look like the bases of super vitrified plates, not the normal genuine ironstone. So I am confused as to what this pattern is as we don't have a backstamp pic from Marl
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Re: Blue Garland Pat.No.416 by Flair - also Fantasy d136 and Azure d434
It looks like those plates are the rimmed shape and we don't have a pattern name for that shape yet. I've only ever seen the Vitrified Ware backstamp on vitrified plates, not Genuine Ironstone, so I'm uncertain about them being vitrified.
CROWN LYNN BLUE GARLAND/FANTASY/AZURE/APOLLO Pattern
Research was required recently, because I recieved in my store from a client wishing to sell, a 78 piece Tableware Lot in the Blue Garland/Fantasy/Azure Pattern.
-45 piece FANTASY No.136 for Gibson Paterson Ltd - VITRIFIED WARE
-32 piece CROWN LYNN SUPER VITRIFIED WARE - VITRIFIED WARE
-1 piece BLUE GARLAND by Flair Bread/Butter Plate - DETERGENT & ACID RESISTENT COLOURS
NOW FOR SALE ON TRADE ME AND INSTORE at 'Remains To Be Scene' FOR $750.00 ( Approx $10.00NZ per piece)
NO CHIPS, CRACKS OR GLAZING. ALL PIECES IN NEAR MINT CONDITION
After researching the comments on New Zealand Potterys’ forum and info from other NZ sources such as Te Papa, Musuems, History NZ etc, on the subject of this Crown Lynn pattern, and what little information is available on this particular pattern and the variations by Crown Lynn. It brings me to the possible assumption that the BLUE GARLAND pattern No.416 by FLAIR made late 1950’s and early 1960’s, was the first of this pattern transfer made by Crown Lynn of an overseas pattern. A non vitrified design but states on logo backstamp ‘Detergent & Acid Resisting ColoUrs’.
Next they produced for the Hospitality Industry tableware for Gibson Paterson Ltd called ‘FANTASY’ pattern No.136 which is stated in the center of the CROWN LYNN NEW ZEALAND SUPERVITRIFIED WARE circular logo.
Crown Lynn released the same pattern again, only this time The backstamp reads NEW ZEALAND CROWN LYNN SUPER VITRIFIED WARE in a circle with the numbers 78 or 82 in the centre (which I believe to be the year of manufacture)
They also released the same pattern with a thick white rim called FANTASY BLUE D136 SuperVitrified Ware and a GENUINE IRONSTONE by Crown Lynn release which also has a white rim with Fantasy pattern.
The pattern was also used for the AZURE & APOLLO Range by Crown Lynn.
-45 piece FANTASY No.136 for Gibson Paterson Ltd - VITRIFIED WARE
-32 piece CROWN LYNN SUPER VITRIFIED WARE - VITRIFIED WARE
-1 piece BLUE GARLAND by Flair Bread/Butter Plate - DETERGENT & ACID RESISTENT COLOURS
NOW FOR SALE ON TRADE ME AND INSTORE at 'Remains To Be Scene' FOR $750.00 ( Approx $10.00NZ per piece)
NO CHIPS, CRACKS OR GLAZING. ALL PIECES IN NEAR MINT CONDITION
After researching the comments on New Zealand Potterys’ forum and info from other NZ sources such as Te Papa, Musuems, History NZ etc, on the subject of this Crown Lynn pattern, and what little information is available on this particular pattern and the variations by Crown Lynn. It brings me to the possible assumption that the BLUE GARLAND pattern No.416 by FLAIR made late 1950’s and early 1960’s, was the first of this pattern transfer made by Crown Lynn of an overseas pattern. A non vitrified design but states on logo backstamp ‘Detergent & Acid Resisting ColoUrs’.
Next they produced for the Hospitality Industry tableware for Gibson Paterson Ltd called ‘FANTASY’ pattern No.136 which is stated in the center of the CROWN LYNN NEW ZEALAND SUPERVITRIFIED WARE circular logo.
Crown Lynn released the same pattern again, only this time The backstamp reads NEW ZEALAND CROWN LYNN SUPER VITRIFIED WARE in a circle with the numbers 78 or 82 in the centre (which I believe to be the year of manufacture)
They also released the same pattern with a thick white rim called FANTASY BLUE D136 SuperVitrified Ware and a GENUINE IRONSTONE by Crown Lynn release which also has a white rim with Fantasy pattern.
The pattern was also used for the AZURE & APOLLO Range by Crown Lynn.
RTBS- Number of posts : 3
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Re: Blue Garland Pat.No.416 by Flair - also Fantasy d136 and Azure d434
That is a very intensive informative post thanks RTBS.
The only thing I can add is that each different shaped ware used a different pattern name, as did the clay body, e.g. vitrified or earthenware and we haven't found them all yet. I will watch your Trade Me listing with interest, as these are rather popular patterns.
The only thing I can add is that each different shaped ware used a different pattern name, as did the clay body, e.g. vitrified or earthenware and we haven't found them all yet. I will watch your Trade Me listing with interest, as these are rather popular patterns.
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