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Post  Ev Thu 13 Feb - 19:37

Jeremy I found this entry in the Deco Advices while I was checking dates for meljay.

Export Expo 70 Ovenware Deco No 172 this is from 1969/70

Lucow glaze Deco number is 147, so it must be a different glaze for sure as every glaze has it's own Deco number.
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Post  Jeremy Ashford Thu 13 Feb - 19:43

Thanks Ev. It's all in the numbers!
I'm going to go stick my head in the 1647.

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The 69/70 date could be useful for dating other items in Deco No 172 such as the 660 and 2034 vases on trademe whose dates of introduction in other glazes was much earlier. I'm guessing that it would have run its course quite quickly.
So far I have only seen it (photos aside) on the vitrified wares, so I'm looking forward one day to seeing it on earthenware too.


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Post  Ev Fri 14 Feb - 6:36

Don't forget the 715 jugs Jeremy -

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Post  Jeremy Ashford Fri 14 Feb - 10:31

Ev, the photo below also shows what appears to be a salt shaker, in front of the pepper grinder. The streaky glaze is similar to my 1619, so I presume it is another Chateau ("Aquamarine" 172) piece. Any ideas what number that is?

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google did not give me the picture of the Osaka empty table setting with the 1645 in it that appears in Michael Smythe's 2011 "New Zealand by Design". I'll look again later.

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I just got Smythe out of the library again.
Photo 3 on page 199 shows the Expo table setting with cup and saucer (shape twenty-5?), 1644, 1645, what is likely a 1648 (later 5621?), and I think behind the glass is a salt shaker, all in Aquamarine.
Photo 1 on page 200 has the 1644 and 1645 again.


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Post  Ev Sun 16 Feb - 10:33

Found another entry for Expo 70 in the Ram Press Earthenware records -

8012 - Oblong Service Plate for Expo 70 - first made 28.10.69
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Post  Jeremy Ashford Fri 21 Feb - 13:36

It looks as though the glaze on this all-over-green .2034. Greenstone vase is neither Lucow (Deco No 147, left) nor Aquamarine (Deco No 172, right). It was really tricky to photograph these three together, with the light constantly changing so I'm posting pics with both light and dark backgrounds.
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Sometimes the shadows in the Greenstone look blue but the edges and thickened areas look golden.

This makes me wonder whether the 660 vase that was sold as "Ngakura" was even Aquamarine, as it certainly would not have been Lucow.
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Post  Ev Fri 21 Feb - 15:54

Let me be clear..... Ngakura is a souvenir range, not a glaze! We both know that the glaze used on the fabulous souvenir range was Lucow. I never thought that the greenstone range used the Lucow glaze.
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Post  Jeremy Ashford Fri 21 Feb - 16:56

Not an issue. I know what Ngakura is. History. Souvenir ware, Luke Adams, Lucow or Basalt glaze.

The seller said the 660 was Ngakura based on the glaze but chances are it isn't even the same glaze, Lucow, as the 660 shape comes out of Auckland and there is no history of Crown Lynn using Lucow in Auckland. My next guess is Aquamarine, but now, seeing the glaze on the 2043 appears not to be Aquamarine, the 660 may not even have been Aquamarine. Up on its second auction the 660 sold for $47. I have no idea whether the buyer believed what they read in the listing or not. I certainly didn't (but wouldn't have minded an opportunity to examine it).

I put the Lucow in the photos above for comparison only, to indicate that not only do we have Lucow and Aquamarine as similar but separate patterns, we now also have what appears to be a third pattern in similar basic dark green colouring.
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